ravenb99 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I might be able to arrange it. Not as fun that way really though. I like to keep cladner in suspense 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cladner Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ravenb99 said: I might be able to arrange it. Not as fun that way really though. I like to keep cladner in suspense i agree. ravenb99's random oblique references and clues turn what should be a simple financial decision into a sleuthing puzzling exercise worthy of hours of contemplation and ponderment. guess right - untold fortunes. guess wrong - you're waiting in walmart return line for eternity behind some joker with a semitruck full of L.O.L. Big surprise balls and snow glow elsas. i've been banking on walmart's clearance to light the way to EOL enlightenment so that has been helpful. one question for those in the know: was there an instance last year of a set that was supposedly not going to retire but then DID end up retiring or is this list IT - nothing else is going. like last year you guys knew dragon sanctuary was going. (like you guys know what this year's dragon sanctuary or town hall is going to be Edited October 28, 2017 by cladner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenb99 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, cladner said: i agree. ravenb99's random oblique references and clues turn what should be a simple financial decision into a sleuthing puzzling exercise worthy of hours of contemplation and ponderment. guess right - untold fortunes. guess wrong - you're waiting in walmart return line for eternity behind some joker with a semitruck full of L.O.L. Big surprise balls and snow glow elsas. i've been banking on walmart's clearance to light the way to EOL enlightenment so that has been helpful. one question for those in the know: was there an instance last year of a set that was supposedly not going to retire but then DID end up retiring or is this list IT - nothing else is going. like last year you guys knew dragon sanctuary was going. Ha so many good words in there, like pondering and surprise balls... I didn't have full information on last year to know but seeing this years which LEGO has even posted one in the catalog the short runs are a known factor and I presume others have this info as well that have hit large quantities of the random short sets in the past (not just the ones that reacted and grabbed up what they could). It does not have anything to do with slow sales of that set. Sure things can still change and that would relate to slow sales or spikes in sales but I do not foresee any extensions like in the past due to the time we are in now. It's not like it was the past 3-4 years and the last thing they need to do is extend sets when they have just under 600 active sets not counting hardline sets like holidays and special stuff like chess. I am interested to see what happens with the 5 sets that didn't match up. I show some of them summer 2018 and a few end of 18. His list I believe he said was what was not orderable anymore which usually does correlate but could also be the reason why. Over here we usually have a set or 2 carry over from the previous wave into the next and seeing all the others were going they just might not carry any from that wave at that retailer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) Yeah, the list is to help smaller shops make their pre Xmas orders and if they want to send back returns before the deadline. In addition, Lego will offer bigger discounts on the sets they want to see in shops and seasonal supermarket lines over this period, which is why you end up seeing the same stuff from shop to shop and they all start price matching each other. At least that´s how it works in Europe and why last year we got such good deals as everyone bought based on previous years´ demand. There will be sets that retire which are not on the list a) because they are not sold to this type of store (D2C exclusives, IDEAS, shop exclusives b: because they were last minute cancellations and xmas orders have been fulfilled. Most sets on the list will have now had their last production runs (weeks 40-47) as Lego switch to 2018 novelties about mid October. Last year they even got them out early so they could be on shelves in December to boost sales. As for late cancellations, no idea about DS but 75150 certainly came late in the day as it was in supermarket Xmas lines. The abrupt cancellation of the last wave of Agents sets in Europe was also probably not listed. I need to ask someone in the know about the specifics - it´s hard to get straight answers when you are outside the circle. Edited October 28, 2017 by Val-E 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shewie Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 5 hours ago, ravenb99 said: It was already stated above the list was missing 128 sets. Of what he had on there all but 5 were correct. He then added some more of which are all correct too. so please let me if we finally reach "final version" of the list rather than "pre alpha", "alpha", and "alpha almost final" of the list. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenb99 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shewie said: so please let me if we finally reach "final version" of the list rather than "pre alpha", "alpha", and "alpha almost final" of the list. thanks. how bout I just give you 2021 for now. It's small and easy to compile for me cause we are so far out and I'm sure it will grow many times as new sets come out each year. So might be a few alpha beta gamma lists til then. 21028 21030 21034 21035 21036 Least that will prevent a few people from stockpiling to early. Mods feel free to move to the retiring not so soon open speculation thread... or the TB, T1 threads will work Edited October 28, 2017 by ravenb99 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcell Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 It was already stated above the list was missing 128 sets. Of what he had on there all but 5 were correct. He then added some more of which are all correct too. Where did you figure out the other 128? Just guessing or do you have another source? It was already stated above the list was missing 128 sets. Of what he had on there all but 5 were correct. He then added some more of which are all correct too. Where did you figure out the other 128? Just guessing or do you have another source? It was already stated above the list was missing 128 sets. Of what he had on there all but 5 were correct. He then added some more of which are all correct too. Where did you figure out the other 128? Just guessing or do you have another source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 42 minutes ago, ravenb99 said: how bout I just give you 2021 for now. It's small and easy to compile for me cause we are so far out and I'm sure it will grow many times as new sets come out each year. So might be a few alpha beta gamma lists til then. 21028 21030 21034 21035 21036 Least that will prevent a few people from stockpiling to early. Mods feel free to move to the retiring not so soon open speculation thread... or the TB, T1 threads will work Still no Eiffel Tower That one will retire after Tower Bridge at this rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenb99 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, Val-E said: Still no Eiffel Tower That one will retire after Tower Bridge at this rate. next year... what happened to patience that everyone always preached around here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 1 minute ago, ravenb99 said: next year... what happened to patience that everyone always preached around here? It got replaced by remake anxiety. For sure there will be a bigger Eiffel to replace this one not long after - that´s their little plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shewie Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 EU website got some Retiring Soon treatment.https://shop.lego.com/en-GB/search/retiring soon?S1=&all=0&callback=json&cc=gb&count=18&do=json-db&i=1&jsonp=jsonCallback&lang=en&pt=shop&q=retiring+soon&rank=rankUS&sp_q_exact_9=gb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glucapg Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 how bout I just give you 2021 for now. It's small and easy to compile for me cause we are so far out and I'm sure it will grow many times as new sets come out each year. So might be a few alpha beta gamma lists til then. 21028 21030 21034 21035 21036 Least that will prevent a few people from stockpiling to early. Mods feel free to move to the retiring not so soon open speculation thread... or the TB, T1 threads will work21035 eol?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legojona Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Nice to see the first wave of Brickhheadz going. I'm most surprised about the retiring of these two: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 28 minutes ago, glucapg said: 21035 eol?? It was a sarcastic post about long term retirements. It´s safe for a couple more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 18 minutes ago, Legojona said: Nice to see the first wave of Brickhheadz going. I'm most surprised about the retiring of these two: Why? These creator 3 in 1´ buildings are so similar Lego could release the same one twice and not notice. The lighthouse could do well but it seems they are not really finding a clear market between kids and AFOLS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legojona Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 31065 was released this year, so that is quite fast. Has little appeal though. The 31051 lighthouse on the other hand is a nice set, although I much prefer the 2011 one: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Dad Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I’ve always liked the lighthouses, this one and the friends one, but never pulled the trigger. It was always maybe $5 more than I thought it was worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Briggs Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 23 hours ago, Gnueck said: In Germany ToysRUs had quite often KwikEMart at 10%-20% off (which is pretty good here for exclusives) I returned the Kwik-E-Marts I got from TRU due to the bad condition of the boxes. Maybe other buyers returned them as well. So TRU was able to offer them again at a discount. In the end, waiting for double VIP points plus promo from SAH is less trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legojona Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 22 minutes ago, Brian Briggs said: I returned the Kwik-E-Marts I got from TRU due to the bad condition of the boxes. Maybe other buyers returned them as well. So TRU was able to offer them again at a discount. In the end, waiting for double VIP points plus promo from SAH is less trouble. TRU is getting better, but I sent many boxes back. The smaller exclusives were usually fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Briggs Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) I added the SAH sets with retiring soon tag to the list posted by @Gnueck (mainly Super Heroes and Duplo): 10506 Train Accessory Set 10524 Farm Tractor 10580 LEGO® DUPLO® Deluxe Box of fun 10590 Airport 10724 Batman™ & Superman™ vs. Lex Luthor™ 10801 Baby Animals 10808 Little Plane 10853 LEGO® DUPLO® Creative Builder Box 10855 Cinderella´s Magical Castle 21024 Louvre 21026 Venedig 21027 Berlin 21031 Burj Khalifa 21050 Studio 21123 Der Eisengolem 21124 Das End-Portal 21125 Das Dschungel-Baumhaus 21126 Der Wither 21127 Die Festung 21131 Türme aus Eis 21132 Der Dschungeltempel 21133 Das Hexenhaus 21134 Unterschlupf im Wasserfall 31042 Düsenjet 31045 Erforscher der Meere 31046 Schneller Sportflitzer 31047 Propeller-Flugzeug 31048 Hütte am See 31049 Doppelrotor-Hubschrauber 31050 Feinkostladen 31051 Leuchtturm-Insel 31053 Baumhausabenteuer 31054 Blauer Schnellzug 31055 Roter Rennwagen 31059 Straßenrennmaschine 31060 Flugschau-Attraktionen 31063 Strandurlaub 31064 Wasserflugzeug-Abenteuer 31065 Stadthaus an der Parkstraße 41065 Rapunzels perfekter Tag 41066 Annas und Kristoffs Schlittenabenteuer 41067 Belles bezauberndes Schloss 41068 Fest im großen Schloss von Arendelle 41101 Heartlake Großes Hotel 41118 Heartlake Supermarkt 41119 Heartlake Cupcake-Café 41124 Heartlake Welpen-Betreuung 41125 Pferdeanhänger und Tierärztin 41127 Spielspaß im Freizeitpark 41128 Raketen-Karussell 41129 Hot-Dog-Stand im Freizeitpark 41133 Autoscooter im Freizeitpark 41143 Berrys Küche 41144 Suzettes Reitanlage 41147 Annas eisiges Abenteuer 41149 Vaianas Abenteuerinsel 41172 Abenteuer mit dem Wasserdrachen 41175 Lavahöhle des Feuerdrachens 41179 Rettung der Drachenkönigin 41180 Raganas magisches Schattenschloss 41181 Naidas Gondel und der diebische Kobold 41182 Die Gefangennahme von Sophie Jones 41184 Airas Luftschiff und die Jagd nach dem Amulett 41185 Magische Rettung aus dem Kobold-Dorf 41230 Batgirl™ auf den Fersen des Batjets 41231 Harley Quinn™ eilt zu Hilfe 41232 Highschool der Super Heroes 41233 Lashinas Action-Cruiser 41234 Bumblebees™ Hubschrauber 41235 Wonder Womans™ Schlafgemach 41300 Welpen-Meisterschaft 41301 Welpenparade 41302 Welpensalon 41303 Welpenspielplatz 41304 Welpenpark 41305 Emmas Fotostudio 41306 Mias Strandroller 41307 Olivias Erfinderlabor 41308 Stephanies Backstube 41309 Andreas Showbühne 41310 Heartlake Geschenkeservice 41312 Heartlake Sportzentrum 41321 Geländewagen im Wintersportort 41326 Adventskalender 41585 Batman™ 41586 Batgirl™ 41587 Robin™ 41588 The Joker™ 41589 Captain America 41590 Iron Man 41591 Black Widow 41592 The Hulk 41593 Captain Jack Sparrow 41594 Captain Armando Salazar 41595 Belle 41596 Beast 42043 Mercedes-Benz Arocs 3245 42044 Düsenflugzeug 42045 Renngleitboot 42046 Fluchtfahrzeug 42047 Polizei-Interceptor 42048 Renn-Kart 42049 Bergbau-Lader 42050 Drag Racer 42052 Schwerlasthubschrauber 42053 Volvo EW160E 42054 CLAAS XERION 5000 TRAC VC 42061 Teleskoplader 60097 Stadtzentrum 60098 Schwerlastzug 60100 Flughafen Starter-Set 60101 Flughafen-Frachtflugzeug 60102 Flughafen VIP-Service 60103 Große Flugschau 60104 Flughafen-Abfertigungshalle 60106 Feuerwehr-Starter-Set 60109 Feuerwehrschiff 60117 Van & Wohnwagen 60119 Fähre 60120 Vulkan Starter-Set 60121 Vulkan-Forschungstruck 60122 Vulkan-Raupe 60123 Vulkan-Versorgungshelikopter 60124 Vulkan-Forscherstation 60129 Polizei-Patrouillen-Boot 60130 Polizeiquartier auf der Gefängnisinsel 60132 Tankstelle 60134 LEGO® City Stadtbewohner 60135 Gangsterjagd auf dem Quad 60136 Polizei-Starter-Set 60142 Geldtransporter 60144 Rennflugzeug 60145 Buggy 60146 Monster-Truck 60147 Angelyacht 60149 Geländewagen mit Katamaran 60151 Dragster-Transporter 60152 Straßenreiniger und Bagger 60155 LEGO® City Adventskalender 60168 Segelboot in Not 70317 Fortrex – Die rollende Festung 70347 Bike der Königlichen Wache 70348 Lances Doppellanzen-Cruiser 70349 Ruinas Käfig-Roller 70350 Triple-Rocker 70351 Clays Blaster-Falke 70352 Jestros Monströses Monster-Mobil (MoMoMo 70353 Der Gargoyl-Heli 70354 Axls Krawallmacher 70355 Aarons Klettermaxe 70356 Der stürmische Steinkoloss 70359 Lance vs. lightning 70361 Macys Robo-Abwurfdrache 70362 Action Clay 70363 Action Macy 70364 Action Aaron 70365 Action Axl 70366 Action Lance 70588 Titan-Ninjamobil 70589 Felsen-Buggy 70591 Kryptarium-Gefängnisausbruch 70592 Schatzgräber M.E.C. 70593 Der Grüne Energie-Drache 70594 Die Leuchtturmbelagerung 70595 Ultra-Tarnkappen-Fahrzeug 70621 Vermillion Falle 70622 Wüstenflitzer 70623 Schatten des Ninja-Flugseglers 70624 Vermillion Eindringling 70625 Samurai Turbomobil 70626 Verhängnisvolle Dämmerung 70627 Drachenschmiede 70902 Catwoman™: Catcycle-Verfolgungsjagd 70904 Clayface™: Matsch-Attacke 70907 Killer Crocs Truck 70908 Der Scuttler 70915 Doppeltes Unheil durch Two-Face™ 75101 First Order Special Forces TIE Fighter™ 75102 Poe's X-Wing Fighter™ 75104 Kylo Ren's Command Shuttle™ 75105 Millennium Falcon™ 75111 Darth Vader™ 75114 First Order Stormtrooper™ 75118 Captain Phasma™ 75125 Resistance X-Wing Fighter™ 75126 First Order Snowspeeder™ 75128 TIE Advanced Prototype™ 75129 Wookiee™ Gunship 75131 Resistance Trooper Battle Pack 75132 First Order Battle Pack 75137 Carbon-Freezing Chamber 75145 Eclipse Fighter™ 75147 StarScavenger™ 75148 Encounter on Jakku™ 75149 Resistance X-Wing Fighter™ 75151 Clone Turbo Tank™ 75152 Imperial Assault Hovertank™ 75153 AT-ST™ Walker 75154 TIE Striker™ 75155 Rebel U-Wing Fighter™ 75156 Krennics Imperial Shuttle 75162 Y-Wing™ Microfighter 75163 Krennic's Imperial Shuttle™ Microfighter 75164 Rebel Trooper Battle Pack 75165 Imperial Trooper Battle Pack 75170 The Phantom 75171 Battle on Scarif 75184 LEGO® Star Wars™ Adventskalender 75870 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 75871 Ford Mustang GT 75872 Audi R18 e-tron quattro 75873 Audi R8 LMS ultra 75874 Chevrolet Camaro Drag Race 75875 Ford F-150 Raptor & Ford Model A Hot Rod 75876 Porsche 919 Hybrid and 917K Pit Lane 75882 Ferrari FXX K & Entwicklungszentrum 76051 Super Hero Airport Battle 76052 Batman™ Classic TV Series – Batcave 76057 Spider-Man: Web Warriors Ultimate Bridge Battle 76073 Mighty Micros: Wolverine vs. Magneto 76080 Ayesha's Revenge 853441 Mini-doll Carry Case 853443 VIP Cardboard Name Plate 853521 LEGO® NEXO KNIGHTS™ Clay Key Chain 853564 LEGO® Elves Me and My Dragon Display Edited October 29, 2017 by Brian Briggs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I guess you added the SAH tagged sets - there´s also the US ones like Heartlake Performance School and even then the list won´t be complete for all themes. Damn, I need to get some of those lighthouses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Briggs Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, Val-E said: I guess you added the SAH tagged sets - there´s also the US ones like Heartlake Performance School and even then the list won´t be complete for all themes. I only added those from EU SAH. 5 minutes ago, Val-E said: Damn, I need to get some of those lighthouses. Or 70359 (Lance vs. lightning) which had limited availability at retail. A sleeper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) We´ll be laughing through gritted teeth if those Nexo Suits are the Ekimu the Money Makers of 2017. My own list contains 324 sets but I don´t track Classic, Juniors or Duplo. We are probably looking at a figure between 350 and 400 sets ceasing production now. Edited October 29, 2017 by Val-E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Villager Chris Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 13 hours ago, Shewie said: EU website got some Retiring Soon treatment.https://shop.lego.com/en-GB/search/retiring soon?S1=&all=0&callback=json&cc=gb&count=18&do=json-db&i=1&jsonp=jsonCallback&lang=en&pt=shop&q=retiring+soon&rank=rankUS&sp_q_exact_9=gb I preferred it over the last couple of weeks. A few sets just performed a Lord Lucan without warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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