Bold-Arrow Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, redcell said: Really? When did that change? Sent from my LM-V600 using Tapatalk I saw this somewhere : DISPUTES Any dispute or claim relating in any way to your use of any Amazon Service will be adjudicated in the state or Federal courts in King County, Washington, and you consent to exclusive jurisdiction and venue in these courts. We each waive any right to a jury trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcandre Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 We wanted to let you know that we recently updated our Conditions of Use. One of our updates involves how disputes are resolved between you and Amazon. Previously, our Conditions of Use set out an arbitration process for those disputes. Our updated Conditions of Use provides for dispute resolution by the courts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Raichu Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Bold-Arrow said: I saw this somewhere : DISPUTES Any dispute or claim relating in any way to your use of any Amazon Service will be adjudicated in the state or Federal courts in King County, Washington, and you consent to exclusive jurisdiction and venue in these courts. We each waive any right to a jury trial. Lessons learned from Patreon's $2 mil loss in arbitration fees We lost our chance to do the same thing to Amazon (ie. arbitration cases from multiple parties that would require Amzn to pay for arbitration costs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grackleflint Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Yeah,Amazon was getting killed with the number of arbitration cases. They thought they would make it harder for people and it ended up being the reverse. The irony… See this WSJ article https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/amazon-faced-75-000-arbitration-demands-now-it-says-fine-sue-us-11622547000Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Raichu Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Bold-Arrow said: I saw this somewhere : DISPUTES Any dispute or claim relating in any way to your use of any Amazon Service will be adjudicated in the state or Federal courts in King County, Washington, and you consent to exclusive jurisdiction and venue in these courts. We each waive any right to a jury trial. 6 minutes ago, grackleflint said: Yeah, Amazon was getting killed with the number of arbitration cases. They thought they would make it harder for people and it ended up being the reverse. The irony… See this WSJ article https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/amazon-faced-75-000-arbitration-demands-now-it-says-fine-sue-us-11622547000 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk How many think Amazon had or will have a lot of influence on the election process for these judges in King County, Washington ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold-Arrow Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, Darth_Raichu said: How many think Amazon had or will have a lot of influence on the election process for these judges in King County, Washington ? Someone should make a movie out of it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcell Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, Darth_Raichu said: How many think Amazon had or will have a lot of influence on the election process for these judges in King County, Washington ? They won't waste their time with that nonsense...the mere fact that the only place that you can resolve a dispute with Amazon is in Seattle increases the cost of launching a dispute well beyond what the vast majority of sellers could justify spending. I'm finalizing the settlement of an arbitration claim with them now and there is no way that I would have gone down the road of a legal dispute if I'd had to sue them in Seattle. There's also no way that I would have gone down this road if Seller Support hadn't turned into a bunch of knuckle-dragging mouth-breathing morons who couldn't find their way out of a paper bag, much help anyone with anything else. At the end of the day, they are going to regret making this change because it opens the door to class action lawsuits. If one hasn't already been filed, I can guarantee you that one will be on file soon on behalf of a putative class of third party sellers for lost merchandise that the sellers couldn't reimbursed for because of the abject incompetence and stupidity of Seller Support. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbacunn Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Nothing new to the idea of establishing the location of court proceedings in agreements. Every company does it. I was just working on a small agreement at work a couple of weeks ago with a company in Dallas and if my company had to sue them we would have to file the lawsuit in Dallas. Logistically it’s just easier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yannick29 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 I have it also. Actually,it appears if you have been selling products that don't hage a ASIN code of LEGO but have LEGO in the description. For example : selling Minifigurines using an ASIN code not from LEGO which is necessary anyway because minifigurines don't have ASIN codes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Twain Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Nothing new to the idea of establishing the location of court proceedings in agreements. Every company does it. I was just working on a small agreement at work a couple of weeks ago with a company in Dallas and if my company had to sue them we would have to file the lawsuit in Dallas. Logistically it’s just easier. I wonder how most companies create legal teams just to deal with it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_14 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 10 hours ago, jbacunn said: Nothing new to the idea of establishing the location of court proceedings in agreements. Every company does it. I was just working on a small agreement at work a couple of weeks ago with a company in Dallas and if my company had to sue them we would have to file the lawsuit in Dallas. Logistically it’s just easier. My company never accepts Texas as their jury awards often have triple damages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbacunn Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 26 minutes ago, Mark Twain said: I wonder how most companies create legal teams just to deal with it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I work for a large company so they we would just hire local counsel to handle the lawsuit if it came to that. It's not that easy for a small business owner and Amazon knows that of course. If it's big business suing another big business the location of the court proceedings isn't that big of a deal. Big business versus small business owner is different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenb99 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Raichu Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, ravenb99 said: I wonder if it bruises his ego that he is only the second billionaire that went to space 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exracer327 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Darth_Raichu said: I wonder if it bruises his ego that he is only the second billionaire that went to space Not sure, but I do think he is trying to compensate for something. Edited July 20, 2021 by exracer327 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Raichu Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, exracer327 said: Not sure, but I do think he is trying to compensate for something. So he modeled the rocket based on his own image 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_14 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 I’m confused. I thought stuff exploded out the other end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exracer327 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, jeff_14 said: I’m confused. I thought stuff exploded out the other end I guess it depends on how much of an @$$ someone can be. But he was comparing size, height, and time in space before he even buckled up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickology101 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 http://bp-forum.s3.amazonaws.com/monthly_2021_07/bezos.thumb.png.5ef92a648d9ae7042beff863093447bf.pngDid he come back ?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Raichu Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, brickology101 said: Did he come back ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk To the chagrin of 165k people: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickology101 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Amazon seller central support is frustrating to deal with in general but I find them straight out dishonest when units go missing on an FBA inventory shipment, and thus whether they receive less units than packed or from inventory reconciliation showing less units sold than received and no reimbursement on the missing units. Every time I open a case on this type of issues the first answer I get is “nope, we see nothing wrong here”. Common…I understand that these missing units can show up months later but common just reimburse me and reverse the reimbursement later on if they show up. They do these reimbursement reversals very well in general. I mean Whats the big deal here. Why giving us all that crap.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold-Arrow Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, brickology101 said: Amazon seller central support is frustrating to deal with in general but I find them straight out dishonest when units go missing on an FBA inventory shipment, and thus whether they receive less units than packed or from inventory reconciliation showing less units sold than received and no reimbursement on the missing units. Every time I open a case on this type of issues the first answer I get is “nope, we see nothing wrong here”. Common…I understand that these missing units can show up months later but common just reimburse me and reverse the reimbursement later on if they show up. They do these reimbursement reversals very well in general. I mean Whats the big deal here. Why giving us all that crap. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk yup. They could care less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickology101 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Another one that pisses me off too is the unfulfillable units that never become available for a removal, or those units that have been set for removal but for some reasons they remain unfulfillable and not available for removal because they already got set for removal . And then I get the email stating that these units have been unfulfillable for too long and past that date they will be destroyed. One time I went past that Date and they removed the units, gone. I could not get reimbursed no matter how hard I tried. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickology101 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Done venting my frustrations. Y’all have good day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold-Arrow Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, brickology101 said: Another one that pisses me off too is the unfulfillable units that never become available for a removal, or those units that have been set for removal but for some reasons they remain unfulfillable and not available for removal because they already got set for removal . And then I get the email stating that these units have been unfulfillable for too long and past that date they will be destroyed. One time I went past that Date and they removed the units, gone. I could not get reimbursed no matter how hard I tried. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Another reason I stopped doing fba. I can keep going on and on , I ultimately decided my sanity is worth more than what I was making . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.