exciter1 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jackson said: Can you tell us more? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8073541/Coronavirus-Amazon-bans-10-000-users-price-gouging-hand-sanitizer.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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$20 on joe vs dan Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 7 hours ago, brickolodon said: actually pretty informative view, but pretty long I think TSA (and global versions) needs to also check body temperature and prevent passengers from flying when they are sick. Yes, greatly inconvenience some but protects the WORLD. The history is there were ZERO pandemics or EVEN flu-season before it became affordable to fly. Even the Black Plague was limited to Europe (I believe). The flying culture internationally needs to change where potential passengers self-monitor and simply accept that flying/traveling sick is unacceptable...and it's in the airlines best interest (long term) to adopt policies that support this change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Mack Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Very good read... https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/coronavirus-mortality-rate-lower-than-we-think.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$20 on joe vs dan Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/medical-screener-lax-airport-tests-positive-coronavirus-n1149986 A medical screener at LAX airport who is a trained professional w/ max protection, got it. Seriously, what hope is there for Joe Shmoe w/ no training and a N95 gonna have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crayxlp Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 38 minutes ago, $20 on joe vs dan said: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/medical-screener-lax-airport-tests-positive-coronavirus-n1149986 A medical screener at LAX airport who is a trained professional w/ max protection, got it. Seriously, what hope is there for Joe Shmoe w/ no training and a N95 gonna have? and this is how most of the panic spreads.. it reads quite easily within the article that at this moment its not sure whether he got sick in the line of his profession or due to the spread within the community. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exracer327 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 8 hours ago, river41 said: actually both kids tested positive so they also have it as does his wife and the neighbor that drove him to the hospital Yeah, found that out today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickolodon Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OECD_countries_by_hospital_beds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickolodon Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandyHand Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 I think this article has a good point: https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/coronavirus-mortality-rate-lower-than-we-think.html But the most straightforward and compelling evidence that the true case fatality rate of SARS-CoV-2 is well under 1 percent comes not from statistical trends and methodological massage, but from data from the Diamond Princess cruise outbreak and subsequent quarantine off the coast of Japan. <.....> This is where the Diamond Princess data provides important insight. Of the 3,711 people on board, at least 705 have tested positive for the virus (which, considering the confines, conditions, and how contagious this virus appears to be, is surprisingly low). Of those, more than half are asymptomatic, while very few asymptomatic people were detected in China. This alone suggests a halving of the virus’s true fatality rate. On the Diamond Princess, six deaths have occurred among the passengers, constituting a case fatality rate of 0.85 percent. Unlike the data from China and elsewhere, where sorting out why a patient died is extremely difficult, we can assume that these are excess fatalities—they wouldn’t have occurred but for SARS-CoV-2. The most important insight is that all six fatalities occurred in patients who are more than 70 years old. Not a single Diamond Princess patient under age 70 has died. If the numbers from reports out of China had held, the expected number of deaths in those under 70 should have been around four. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjamin4172 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 I think the vietnamese government is really well dealing with the outbreak by informing their people that they have to wash the hands regurlarly and maintain personal hygiene. And they did it by a song. Thats exactly the way you reach people and prevent mass hysteria. Officials here in Germany state that sanitizers wont help more than washing your hand regurlarly and thoroughly. It also cuts the supply for people that really need those, like hospitals and so on.(Because there are still those other deseases and accidents and so on. And btw using sanitizers on a regurlar basis also really damages your skin for a long time. My wife and I had to use them while our son was in hospital for 5 weeks, and since then both our hands are really messed up. And that was 3 Years ago. So please remember this when using those sanitizers. Here in Germany the desease also spreads thanks to people that are thoughtless/careless and cannot follow basic rules like: Wash hands, dont sneeze in other faces, go to the doctors if you show signs of it. Ahhh and: dont touch your face (Human touches his face over 200 times a day and thats a good way for a Virus to get into your System) So stay calm and follow basic rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Raichu Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 18 hours ago, exciter1 said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8073541/Coronavirus-Amazon-bans-10-000-users-price-gouging-hand-sanitizer.html Just a reminder for (newer) sellers with Amazon seller accounts: DO NOT RISK your Amazon accounts by doing something like this. Once banned, it is very hard to get unbanned or even open a new one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iahawks550 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 King County tells 2 million workers to stay home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauromosis Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 This is a great site tracking all this that's frequently updated: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Mack Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 5 hours ago, HandyHand said: I think this article has a good point: https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/coronavirus-mortality-rate-lower-than-we-think.html But the most straightforward and compelling evidence that the true case fatality rate of SARS-CoV-2 is well under 1 percent comes not from statistical trends and methodological massage, but from data from the Diamond Princess cruise outbreak and subsequent quarantine off the coast of Japan. <.....> This is where the Diamond Princess data provides important insight. Of the 3,711 people on board, at least 705 have tested positive for the virus (which, considering the confines, conditions, and how contagious this virus appears to be, is surprisingly low). Of those, more than half are asymptomatic, while very few asymptomatic people were detected in China. This alone suggests a halving of the virus’s true fatality rate. On the Diamond Princess, six deaths have occurred among the passengers, constituting a case fatality rate of 0.85 percent. Unlike the data from China and elsewhere, where sorting out why a patient died is extremely difficult, we can assume that these are excess fatalities—they wouldn’t have occurred but for SARS-CoV-2. The most important insight is that all six fatalities occurred in patients who are more than 70 years old. Not a single Diamond Princess patient under age 70 has died. If the numbers from reports out of China had held, the expected number of deaths in those under 70 should have been around four. Yes, I recommended this article yesterday. Here is the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus "tracker." https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 The anal wack job I am, I have been calculating the death ratio daily and it has been falling, which is great news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$20 on joe vs dan Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ed Mack said: Yes, I recommended this article yesterday. Here is the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus "tracker." https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 The anal wack job I am, I have been calculating the death ratio daily and it has been falling, which is great news! I don't know if the changes in mortality rate will change the take home lessons: If over 70 and/or immuno-compromised absolutely take serious precautions (stay at home and avoid any unnecessary travel); folks need to be checking on their elderly relations. All else; stay home if sick and cover up if going out. If not sick; continue w/ normal life but feverishly wash hands (properly) at every opportunity..,,maybe defer travel plans and avoid congregations in tight spaces..folks that need to take a subway...you're F'd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Mack Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, $20 on joe vs dan said: I don't know if the changes in mortality rate will change the take home lessons: If over 70 and/or immuno-compromised absolutely take serious precautions (stay at home and avoid any unnecessary travel); folks need to be checking on their elderly relations. All else; stay home if sick and cover up if going out. If not sick; continue w/ normal life but feverishly wash hands (properly) at every opportunity..,,maybe defer travel plans and avoid congregations in tight spaces..folks that need to take a subway...you're F'd! All I am saying is that it is a positive, nothing else. I think people are getting a better handle on the situation and concentrating on older and compromised individuals. We all have older people in our lives and it matters, believe me. Clean your hands. Avoid large crowds. And for God's sake, stay off the damn cruise ships! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmaslıefendi Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Alright, s*** is getting real. There are around 40 cases in my area (5km radius). The math tutor of a friend actually got it & was escorted out of the building. I think all schools & universities will close here next week, pretty sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Mack Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, elmaslıefendi said: Alright, s*** is getting real. There are around 40 cases in my area (5km radius). The math tutor of a friend actually got it & was escorted out of the building. I think all schools & universities will close here next week, pretty sure! Where do you live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmaslıefendi Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, Ed Mack said: Where do you live? Germany, near Stuttgart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickolodon Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 https://www.ktnv.com/news/potential-case-of-novel-coronavirus-in-nevada-reported-by-website-health-district-to-respond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortbus311 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Lol, so Ebay has completely blocked the sale of all N95 masks, hand sanitizer and disinfectant wipes on it. I get blocking price gougers, but I started all my mask listings at a $0.99 no reserve auction. I wasn't gouging anything, simply letting the market decide the value. Oh well, off to Mercari... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Raichu Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Shortbus311 said: Lol, so Ebay has completely blocked the sale of all N95 masks, hand sanitizer and disinfectant wipes on it. I get blocking price gougers, but I started all my mask listings at a $0.99 no reserve auction. I wasn't gouging anything, simply letting the market decide the value. Oh well, off to Mercari... I wonder how many eBay exec are crying over this decision. There goes our record Q1 earnings from commissions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickolodon Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I wonder how many eBay exec are crying over this decision. There goes our record Q1 earnings from commissions What about regular sellers that always sell that stuff ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Raichu Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, brickolodon said: What about regular sellers that always sell that stuff ? eBay Exec: who cares about sellers? They are dime a dozen on our website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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