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I think there is too much analysis going on here. It's really not that complicated. LEGO has a production plan for every set. Most follow that plan within a couple of months of the original dates. If it is a more popular set like the HH, it will sell out before the original date was reached. If it is an unpopular set, it could last well past the original retirement date. The unpopular and poor selling sets will see "Retiring Soon" notices or possible discounts. That being said, sometimes there are outliers in the system...Sets that either sell very, very well and production runs are extended or on the negative side, sets that sell poorly and are removed early. There are also sets that have production issues in which some components of the set...bricks...instructions...boxes...make it too costly to continue production. Could LEGO be messing with EOL dates? Absolutely. But most sets will continue their normal production lives for the reasons I mentioned above.

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CT have arrived! All packed in either factory cases of 2 or large WM boxes of 3

When they walk into the lego store and see stacks of Exo Suits......

This set is just like RI in that it has very little risk to it. Its cheaply priced, is pretty cool and was not available like a lot of regularly produced mainstream sets. It was only available through LEGO and some dot coms. It will have been out for a short time compared to other sets as well. Sure its stacked in LEGO stores right now. That will change as usual.

Let me explain so you can understand...... When you have a family with kids, it's damn expensive. Not that I'm complaining, it's just very, very expensive. You don't have a bunch of diposable income to invest. When you do, it's really not that much and the investing and then waiting for profit is slow.....very slow. Especially if you are new to this as I am (I am only like 8-9 months in). Also, when your wife sees that you are using the disposable income to buy Lego, even if you explain that you are going to make money, she won't be fully convinced until you start raking in some money. For someone like me who is new and the sets I have are not quite close to retirement or some that are, it will take a long time for me to see any profit. If you have been playing this investing game for a while like you have, you have had time to build up your portfolio and money and can make a convicing argument to your girlfriend that this is a great side business you are doing. Plus, you don't have kids. If I didn't have kids and I could invest all that I wanted, I am sure that I could have already convinced my wife that this is a great side business that is making extra money for the family. But that hasn't happened yet and I am sure it will but it is going to take some time. I can't blame wives and/or husbands that are skeptical. I would be too and wouldn't really believe it until I saw some cash start rolling in.

I tried to look at it in a different way... how many modulars were available in total during a year: 2007: 2 (MS CC) 2008: 3 (MS CC GG) 2009: 4 (MS CC GG FB) 2010: 3 (GG FB GE) 2011: 3 (FB GE PS) 2012: 4 (FB GE PS TH) 2013: 5 (FB GE PS TH PC) 2014: 5 (GE PS TH PC PR) 2015: 4 (PS PC PR DO) Hope this helps. p.s. Are there any rumours for a new modular coming out in the fall? This would make things even more interesting.

I'd believe their obvious message to consumers is simply that they are giving everyone who wants one at retail price advance notice. It will be a very short run for a lego set, and inline with other non licensed ideas sets.

Definitely wasn't very cryptic. LEGO clearly could use a lesson in riddles.

Yes it is. I was able to compare them in a toy shop:

No, this is trolling.

He'll let it slide this time, next time.... Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Brickpicker mobile app

Whats happening lego people? I found this site On Sunday, lost all semblance of reason becuase I read it until 3 am (7am start time at work) every night since and just blew my 1st thousand on legos to invest in. This is the place of my people. I love my job, but I LOVE hunting down diamonds, and turning a profit. Its the rush. Just wanted to thank everyone for contributing to this awesome site. ITs definitley led me to make some purchases, and I hope that I can grow it readily. ...So far, I found 3 sets of series 2 mixles, 3 sets of series 3, 2 t1s, 1 mini, 1 DGB, 1 Blocktober set, 4 Ecto-1s, 4 Exo-suits, 4 treehouses, and a few Star wars mins to play with. The plan is to diversify (any good investor does that right?) and build a few racks, and hold long on the bigger sets. Looking to get into a few sea cows, SOH, TB, , then amass mixle sets, t1s, star wars, and idea sets for the holiday season. How do you all diversify your collection?

I think you might be confused. Thread titles are what the thread isn't about. For example, all modular EOL speculation can be found in the Palace Cinema thread and all local Target clearance finds and Walmart Creative Tower order statuses are in the Daily Deals thread.

Target clearance... 20 joker steam rollers at $35/each. 6 x-men sentinels at $35/each. 4 metal beards at $25/each. My tax rate is 5.5%, so the redcard basically negates tax. I left several sets that were also marked down. Lots of agents, secret police dropship, hobbit lake town, and most of the new turtles sets. Go to your Targets, people!

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I think that the "chaos" which is coming (according to Ed Mack) is about amazon and other online retailers which will not be allowed anymore to make their usual discounts on lego sets. And if amazon do not agree, they will no receive anymore lego sets. But you'll still be able to buy some sets online on toys'r us for example, but at RRP. I think that the time when we were able to get some sets with 30% off on amazon is behind us. I have no proof, I just see what's going on in my country on amazon: no more discounts on the new sets (for the 2015 sets), no more modulars available on amazon (since a while), fewer and fewer different sets on amazon (more can be found on the LEGO Shop at Home). RRP everywhere, in online and B&M shops ? Man, THAT would be a real "chaos".

So we started out with some unfounded speculation that the PC could retire early, which spawned a bunch of discussion about that. And now the resulting increase in posts is being cited as evidence that something may be afoot with this set. Circular logic at its best.

You are right. That is a very good deal. I have not seen any discounts on this set yet.

My problem is that I want to reinvest every dime I make and my inventory perpetually grows. The wife isn't crazy about that strategy, but it will pay off long-term. I just need her to see that.

You're remembering incorrectly. TH didn't sell out until a few days into the Oct. double VIP. It was definitely available for purchase from LEGO Shop at Home North America on Oct. 1.

To all the QFLLs...........bitter much?

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Thanks for the work on updating the list guys. I'll take a look at home tonight and see if I can make some posts of the stats.

I know I can he bold and abrasive at times. And I never want to be totally disrespectful but really?.... Are you trolling. Like honestly. Why would you return a set that you could sell right now for much more then you paid and make a profit? I honestly don't think any response you could propose would be valid or make any sense. Or why not offer it to people here.

'Not undercutting' talk is too close to collusion talk. You just gotta wait for the knuckleheads happy to make $5 a set to sell first. I'm watching it play out now with the helicarriers on ebay.

About your marriage or your remaining ct's? :p

Darth Vader music played in my head as I read your response.

Yes but beware, it's dangerous. You won't get my code !

That must have been an interesting ride back on the bike

Couldn't help myself today:

Maybe Emazers can give his opinion on this set? I just read that he bought two PC's and two PS's today. My actions are where my mouth is. I just ordered 3 PC's. So I have reached my minimum stack of 5.

kudos to you broda if you are investing without using your savings or the portion of your saving. { this pretty much means you are already +ve $$ }

It doesn't sound like TLG made "too many" of these as many have said above. It sounds like they came pretty close to meeting demand. Limit of one at full retail on LEGO Shop at Home indicates they are not going to have trouble moving the last of these. TLG did everything right with this set, in my book. I hope to see retirement announcements like this become a trend. Sent from my XT1028 using Brickpicker mobile app

Yep, just like the Delorean was stacked and discounted.

re-sellers are their own enemies -- someone wise in this forum once said

Considering how large the fan base for Classic Space is not to mention very vocal about their devotion to these sets of old, I think LEGO overestimated nothing really. They truly listened to the fans and made more than enough units to meet the wants of many. Here they are making the last call for those who have a tendency to put things off until the final minute. Now how many here have such habits with waiting until double VIP points events or scouring for something on Amazon's Warehouse deals or hunting for a deep enough discount at Walmart? These still new tactics of Retiring Soon tags to now this main page announcement of being decommissioned are ploys we think we understand but honestly do not.

More importantly, when we try to make predictions, it's more usefull to look at more recent sets. The current pattern seems to be that modulars have a 4 year run. Obviously there are several factors that can cause to a diversion. For TH, people here like to speculate that it was a slow seller, was too expensive. Regardless of all that, we mustn't forget that thses vague patterns are merely predictions, not some "law" that TLG has to adhere to. TLG wants to make money. If a particular modular sells well, production capacities might get increased and life span extended. If PS would be an exceptional money maker, it might just as well not retire this year. All those predictions are under the assumption that there are no unconsidered factors having a deciding impact. Regarding PC, I really don't see any indication why it would retire soon. Out of stock happens whenever supply is lower than demand. True, stock will eventually run low after production ceased. But it also happens whenever demand is higher than expected or increasing production capacities isn't economically viable. And for the economy nuts, who believes in 100% smooth supply chains (even vertical) anyway? Since there are sets with 2015 production seals, it's quite unlikely that ceased production is what causes the limited shortage. For those who want to stock up "just in case, not to miss out" go ahead. There's no such thing as an "ideal moment" to start, or at least you won't know when it was until it's too late. But just be aware that you might very well be sitting on a pile of not so small, not so cheap boxes for years before EOL. Is PS a better investment? Looking at FB, it will perform acceptably, but not exceptionally. Timing wise, it could become another FB or GE, but not another TH (and forget about GG or CC, those were "the old days" of brick investing).

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Welcome, droolmonkey. Any good investor knows his/her limits between setting an 'allowance' towards purchases either designated for investment or personal, maps out what area(s) can be used for storage without burying him/herself or one's family, and yes tries to mix up some diversity to hedge the bets as 'a sure thing' doesn't exist but more like 'a good probability'. Also discounts are not always indicative of demand. Sometimes retailers just need to move stock in order to make room for the new and a sale usually helps speed the process. One last thing would be to do a little Mapquest or Google Maps check to see where all the nearby Targets, Walmarts, Toys R Us', etcetera in your general vicinity are since this will help in planning those annual clearance raids.

Be careful about buying too much, too fast when you first start out. It's really easy to get sucked into doing that and IMO your list of sets that you've already invested in is questionable. I don't mean to say it's awful or anything like that but I think it could've been better.

More than your reputation here, at any rate....

Isn't that about the same thing as a Death Star? Where are these rumors coming from? I think Abrams' team is just leaking these to keep people of the trail of the actual plot lines.

oh yeah I see... maybe mods could add something so that people see if a post has been moved? Now I feel mean...

I made an incomplete list in the DD thread. Probably those I lay my eyes on. Anyway: Retirement on en-FR: 10937 AA 10233 HE 79003 UG 79004 79007 79008 PSA 10211 GE 75025 10235 WVM 76000 Mr Freeze 76006 Extremis 76007 Malibu 75018 75021 Gunship 75025 Jabba's SB 70404 Castle 31011 AA (as well) 31012 FH 41006 DB 21002 ESB 7965 MF 21002 MC 42007 42000 Racer 3315 OH ......... pretty much all super heroes 76000-76007...

Lot calculator is saying $ 1327.80 for used condition. Super nice find.

That never stops anyone else here...

Oh you can officially connect some sets together ! That's great !

Here's some speculating for you... Since the Exo-Suit was announced as retiring at the end of February...maybe we'll get a big wave of official retirements along with this one?

Mixels: Ninjago style !!!