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I guess I'll never understand the purpose of making random, unsubstantiated claims regarding where a particular set is in its production cycle.

I have a Lego dream today! I have a dream that one day, i will find this shelf! I found this picture today and it was like a dream vision! Just had to share it

From my sales history your logic is sound. $150-200 sets sell very well even after retirement or even while doing the dance. Even with a modest bump of 75-100 a collector can still buy the set for $225-300. $300+ sets are a big chunk of change and even if it sees a good bump of $125-150 and goes to $450ish you don't always have the volume of buyers at that level. To put it in perspective as a whole, R2, ToO, AA, HH, TH (all 160-200 range) have sold faster and in way higher quantity than a $400 SSD does for $700. You just loose a big amount of customer base with that much cash to spend once you hit $500+ aftermarket sets. They can still be good sets but you do have to figure your investing budget out a little more on these larger sets and plan longer hold times and larger chunks of real estate in storage.

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Maybe they designed it to be played with. ;)

legodelorean here is my thoughts responding to you Well as I prefaced I am only speculationg. Of course what is this thread called? Speculation? If it was facts only required I guess this forum would not be needed. Here is my take on things for the EEE: All of it is from memory and therefore subject to being not 100% accurate but I have provided links: - Recently the EEE went to sold out in Europe http://shop.lego.com/en-GB/Maersk-Line-Triple-E-10241 - Recently someone (not me) in Europe contacted Lego LEGO Shop at Home in Europe and they sent them an email confirming it is not coming back he posted (see EEE thread for text) http://community.brickpicker.com/topic/5924-10241-maersk-triple-e/?p=412876 - Recently someone else in Europe got a similar response from Lego LEGO Shop at Home in Europe (see EEE thread for message) http://community.brickpicker.com/topic/5924-10241-maersk-triple-e/?p=415110 - I thought someone in the last 6-12 months said Maersk timelines can possibly go shorter than other sets based on history brickset shows Maersk Train 10219 at about 19 months in US and maersk ship 10155 about 7 months in US - So for me I said I have no idea but here is my thoughts I am not all on fire about this set. I am not saying it is going away. I am saying I am guessing. This is a speculation thread. I have 6 and may want to get 3 or 4 more if I can but am not that worked up about it. If you are wanting to have one I'd suggest to try to get one soon to be safe but who knows it could be here another year. One good thing to look at is from the past Lego Europe LEGO Shop at Home sale. (forget when it was late last year?) What is left that was discounted and has not gone to retirement? I think for sure EEE and SOH. Almost every other one has gone away from what I remember. - In the case of Red 5, I was not the only one commenting. Ed Mack basically said he has no idea if it is retiring or not but he also said he suggested if you want one you should consider going ahead and getting it. Likewise I have no idea if it is going or not but I feel safer with where I am at now than I did two months ago. I hope this helps you in your decision. thanks, Trek

All very logical, but I think a short production run + high price point for SOH = little hoarding. The comparison to modulars is interesting: Some facts to chew on: 1. There have been five advanced model Statue of Liberty (2000), Eiffel Tower (2007), Taj Mahal (2008), Tower Bridge (2010), SOH (2013). Five since 2000, but roughly one every two years. 2. How many modulars have there been, and how often are they released? 9 modulars total, one per year since 2007. 3. Sets with a lower price point typically have higher production runs. I would guess there are many more sets of each recent modulars produced than SOHs (as of today). Add this all together and I think it's safe to assume there are many fewer SOHs than any of the modular sets. I agree there's a demand component this completely glosses over, but in recent past, it seems like the sets with lower production runs have determined the fastest climbers - see Town Hall - unlike the most popular sellers (see Grand Emporium). That's why I think SOH will grow quickly if it retires soon, and have a much higher ceiling than any modular.

Or, for the same price, you could have bought 7 sets of Series 1 Mixels, and sold them at $120 per, leaving you with about about $280 profit, and only needing about the space of one SOH. Just sayin'....

I would like to add what I consider this very important piece of data: # of unique Lego sets introduced by year 2015: 381(announced to date) 2014: 719 2013: 675 2012: 689 2011: 593 2010: 514 2009: 472 2008: 429 To a discerning investor, this is pretty important info. Lego has some flexibility in infrastructure, and automation has made it easier to produce a larger variety of sets, but there's a limit to this efficiency without large, additional capital investment. Prior precedent for EOL may or may not be followed in the future. To me, its clear that increasing set numbers from TLG mean that we may see shorter product lifespans for some of their introductions from the last few years. I think a careful study of sets from 2012-2014 which have a large number of unique parts, large boxes (note: last 2 modulars are in smaller box sizes), and relatively slow sales may reveal candidates for EOL that aren't necessarily on the radar at the moment. As always, YMMV.

Please remain on-topic about the set. Personally, I'm happy the Ewoks were in just 1 movie and I'm an original trilogy snob. However, I loved the Ewok scenes as a kid as did most children of that era.

Just once, before they die, bring AC/DC to the Superbowl half-time show.

I'm a Broncos fan but still thought this was funny as hell

Nice! Well... the good news is... the lego store still has shelves filled like this. Just different sets and new opportunities.

I couldn

Seems like lately in this thread and others, there is a lot of talking without much being said.

You do not have time anymore these days. Lately it is more about choices. Which sets do I see as good investments and buy my quantities. I have given up on trying to buy them all. Almost impossible for me.

What happened to the Red 5 panic bus you were driving?

I did not know Tabbyboy had his own online tv-show!

Typical government contract bungle.

https://ideas.lego.com/projects/49609 Lego Ideas set from 2013.

I can already hear secondary market buyers complaining about getting only 1 TIE (instead of 3) in a box they paid $500 for. That boxart is misleading. ETA: Is that even a real concept art ? That Yoda on the top is not for this year. My money is on fanart

The latest Ep (Call to Action) is awesome. Prob the best ep to-date. No direct spoilers from me but I will type "Imperial March" !

I thought my GED would get me nowhere, but I found BrickPicker.

I think Niko drop shipped that play call down to the Seahawks sideline.

She was hired as distraction while Katy Perry changed costumes for the next songs

Agreed.......take your chances and let Lynch try to bang it in from the 1. Worst play call in the history of the Superbowl probably.

Moving day. Next time I'm hiring someone.

Couple more pictures showed up at Hoth Bricks.

I have a 46S4 ordered from LEGO Shop at Home. Technically a set cannot be produced for more than 10 years as their own packing code "system" would have to be changed as they only have 1 digit for the year (sort of a Y2K time bomb). The packing codes are important for product recalls so they must be unique. Since 10188 came out in 2008 the last packing code we will see ever see is possibly 50S7 or 50R7 for North America....Yaaayyyy under 3 years to go!

this guy is up to the challenge!

Rumored Minifigures Series SW, probably will be available at the movie release:

Trekgate has adopted the NTSB air crash investigation approach to EOL speculation on the EEE - piecing together little clues and shreds of evidece putting them together to give a credible, balanced and reasoned analysis. Turning to SOH, we know it was in the BF sale and is the only one left that hasn

Just seems to me that hoarder or not, the SOH is a tough sell to me for investing purposes. Let's just say if you got it at retail of $320, plus tax...that's around $340 investment now. Then it goes EOL and jumps to $500 quickly. After all fees you could be left with $420. So after a year of holding, you could have made a whopping $80 per and taken up a lot of space if you have multiple of them. If you got 2 PS or 2 PC's let's say at $160 (taxes), then they EOL. The modulars always seem to jump a lot more quicker. So after a year if they jumped to $300-350 like the fire brigade has, after fees you are profiting $80 per x 2. So for the same price you can make $160 profit to the SOH $80. If you keep multiplying that because you buy many of them, it increases. Maybe in 4 years the SOH becomes a $1,000 set, but if they modulars do as well, it's a no brainer to me. Am I right on this logic, it sounds right in my head. haha.

I am experiencing the same problem today. I called Lego and the CS told me they had some problems cause they were doing maintenance on the site. Wondering what will change!?

Oldest date i can find is last year March. Still very recent for a shelf like this.

Not sure if you're serious or just making a fool of us but take a look at http://brickset.com/ and then type a theme (city, technic, friends, star wars...), then choose a year (2011, 2012...) and look at the availibility of sets listed. Some retire after some few months, some after 5 years. But most of the sets retire after 2 years / 2 years and a half. I hope you'll understand that I'll no bother to list 90% of the sets listed as a proof. There is nothing new under the sun. Do not try to prove that I'm wrong by using the death star as an example.

I'm proud to finally share my model of the Geisel Library at UCSD, which is a lovely Brutalist-style building that I re-created in the tradition of the Architecture series. The final building in the style of the Architecture series sets. The finished model is probably about 800 pieces, and it's on display this weekend at Seattle BrickCon! If you aren't lucky enough to be in Seattle this weekend, I've prepared a collection of photos of the models, as well as a exploration of the creative process as I iterated on the design before reaching this final version. Before arriving at the final design, I did a bunch of explorations including this much smaller model. some photos of the real building that I've tried to re-create in LEGO. More photos and the "making of" at: http://tomalphin.com/2014/10/geisel-library.html I hope you enjoy my first serious MOC, and I'd love to hear your feedback!!! Sincerely, ---tom

concept box art...

Is there specific reason to believe the not-to-be-mentioned criminal activity either is, or will be, increased by being mentioned on these forums? Seems like a valid point of discussion to me, on sets like EV and DS. Not that I particularly agree with the sentiment myself, but I don't agree with more than half of what people post, anyway... While I truly appreciate a strong sense of responsibility involved, I must ask: Do violent video game players moderate their forums to avoid talking about the nutjob teenagers that go on mass shooting sprees in hopes of somehow curbing that activity? Isn't this a very watered-down version of the same situation? Sorry, it just doesn't make sense to me.

They usually do, but ever so often, they are already sold out before setting sale for the last time.

I bought a flower cart for $9.99 shipped, I like the actual poly a lot and I know it'll really compliment the detective agency when I get it!

That said when production ends it will disappear quicker than a set of rims at a Puff Daddy concert. This may well be hoarded but it's a baddass set that I'm convinced will rise rapidly.

A LEGO tribble would be hard to pull off.

No thanks, it seems an attempt to market the UCS line, but poorly executed. Just looking at the actual minifig display vs. The helicarrier I say poor job. None forme. TThiis not a star wars theme type ship. Too bad. I have arrived at the conclusion that in this age of investing just because Lego makes something does not mean it will be prudent investment.

Just had a thought (ouch)...why didn't they use the hard technic sails from Metalbeard's Sea Cow on these new ships? This line is a disappointment! P.S. nice article on the history here: http://brickset.com/article/14024

Perhaps dump all lego and money should be going here:? I spoke to a lady at Bed Bath and Beyond yesterday and SHE TOLD ME "CHILLOW IS DONE, WE ARE NOT GETTING ANY MORE IN!" Get your cases of Chillows NOW GENTLEMEN!

I'm not impressed. The exterior looks very bad, and it's quite small as well. I would hate to see this as a production set. Sent from my iPod touch using Brickpicker

I love what I bought today from a thrift store. A bag of random building pieces that turned out to be 3 LEGO sets from Pirates of the Caribbean, all 99% complete with all minifigs and accessories. 4195 Queen Anne's Revenge, 4181 Isla de la Muerta and 4191 Captain's Cabin. All for $15.