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What I personally think people here are overlooking is the fact that the upcoming NEW Batman (vs Superman / Justice League) movies have NOTHING to do with the Christopher Nolan Batman Trilogy! DC Comics wants to set up a collection of movies with the Justice League series, to compete with the Marvel Comics Avengers movies. The Lego sets connected to these new DC movies need to be recognisable and not set any confusion as to what movie a certain set belongs to. The Tumbler set from the completed Christopher Nolan Batman/Dark Knight trilogy obviously does NOT belong with these upcoming movies, and therefore has to go. Simple as that. It's even quite likely that TLG was given a demand by DC Comics to remove The Tumbler set from their portfolio in order for TLG to be granted the license deal to produce sets for Batman vs Superman and subsequent Justice League movies. The Tumbler is an iconic set from a trilogy of highly appreciated and rated Batman movies. It's unique, the production run is comparatively short for a Lego UCS set, and people watching those movies in 10 years from now will still love to own this beast of a Lego set! This set is a winner. No doubt about it!

This is now labeled "Retiring soon" In North America on lego shop@home.

Fork over the dough and have some or don't and be without. It's amazing that some people will pass over a few bucks.........when its worth 4X msrp is it really gonna matter?

That's why I always use a public payphone when I order.

LEGO is not an idiot. They would not produce this many exclusives if they were only bought by investors, since they would kill their own market with it. Investors can also sell only because there is demand. LEGO knows quite well that if somebody purchases several copies of an exclusive during its lifetime is probably an investor. VIP cards used in physical stores also generate data. It is even possible to bind sales to credit card identifiers. If somebody has the dataset it takes like 10 minutes to determine the percentage of sales going to investors using these metrics. What I see is that LEGO is probably retiring exclusives after 1.5-2 years because: So many new offering that they are enough for most buyers, e.g. the people who buy stuff in stores and official websites instead of secondary market. Collectors mostly scoop these up in the first few months after release, therefore some sets might perform poorly later. Serious collectors already had enough time to buy these and can adapt to retirement cycles. For not serious ones any current set will do, there are always enough on the palette. No reason to keep most sets for a long time. Hoarders can't hoard too much. Limits and scarcity in physical shops coupled with shorter lifetimes means less supply later on, which can preserve secondary market prices which avoid competition between sets offered by investors and LEGO. Why? Because only serious collectors buy stuff way above MSRP, but they also buy the recent releases too. Average Joe who is just looking for a building experience once in a while will never cash out $700 for a modular. If prices of retired sets and live ones were to be too close there might be some competition and that is harmful for LEGO.

Bite bullet. Pay retail. Smile later.

The LEGO Shop at Home website is a technical mess. You guys are giving them too much credit with this red/orange thing.

Wholly Batwheels,................Just when I thought I can have a Financial Breather for a few Months,......................... Bammm!

Well, I also know people here in Holland still not buying it, despite they have plenty of cash, storage & time for it. They will regret with their simplistic reasoning that this set will be a bad seller like Arkham Asylum. Like Ed said: This said isn't comparable, it is much better. In my opinion, even when you are in Europe, you should buy this set when you have of course the resources for it. Available resources is for everybody different and from my side I totally respect that. Please tell me: How often will Lego retire a highly respected exclusive after 1.5 years? Was so scarce available (at least here in Europe)? This might be a once in a decade opportunity, with a little bit of luck this set will become a legend within 5 years. People which are worried about the 'retiring soon' tag. Why worried? Most of the sets are now bought by investors and hopefully Lego decided not to produce anymore and sell of their last big stock. A lot of sets are not ending up by end-users and sold out = sold out hopefully. Little bit more reseller competition perhaps, but as long as you are patient and hold for the long-term you will potentially be sitting on gold.

Well I am happy to read that there are a lot of positive vibes about the movie. I know I am a serious geek when I couldn't stop watching that Red Carpet Event last night. I asked my wife if it was "normal" to have enjoyed something that was actually quite bad. http://variety.com/2015/film/news/star-wars-force-awakens-reviews-premiere-reactions-1201661338/ http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/dec/15/star-wars-the-force-awakens-first-reactions-suggest-overwhelming-experience

Sneak preview...

So you're not such an average guy after all.

You disappoint me. Your name is "stackables" for crying out loud!

Holy Crap. It's Official! Let the walls come down....

Used 10179 Falcon

Sold a tonne over the last 7 days but the highlights are: 3 x fire brigade 10197 / Amazon £300 each 4x Heartlake Highs 41005 / Amazon £89.49 each 13 x Mirkwood elf army 79012 / Amazon £69.99 each 9 x Shelob attacks 9470 / Amazon £46.45 each 12 x Uruk-hai army 9471 / Amazon £67.95 each 12 x Toy workshop 40106 / Amazon £27.49 each 19 x Ice skating rink 40107 / Amazon £23.99 each 4 x Maersk Triple-E 10241 / Amazon £229.99 each 10 x AT-RT 75002 / Amazon £39.95 each 10 x Dynamic duo funhouse 6857 ( got no faith in this set anymore ) Amazon £79.99 each God knows how many 9488's & 9489's must be around 50 on Amazon £27.49 each, these paid off big considering i got them all for £3.25 each 10 x Golden Dragon 70503 / Amazon £99.99 each 8 x Delorean 21103 / eBay £129.99 each 7 x Heartlake Vet 3188 / Amazon £119.99 each 3 x LOTR Battle of Helm's deep board game 50011 / eBay £49.99 each 6 x Wedding favour set 853340 / Amazon £27.49 each All prices include shipping. Not to mention a load of series 10/11/12/GB minifigures and 100's of polybags. Best thing is only had four INR's in the last 30 days ( a new Christmas record ) and no complaints! Almost forgot, sold around 50 mixed series 2 Mixels on eBay/Amazon for £10 each

That's the holiday gift giving spirit!!

it's a sliding scale...

And when you created this new account, it too is now a new VIP account? For the record I am also banned from Lego Shop at Home. I went from a valued customer and having a Lego Store Manager and 2 employees helping load my car with product to the most villainous scum on the earth. It's funny how things change lol

The more new investors the better, right? Oh wait.....

The Force is strong with this one.^

Just talked my wife into investing a bit of her own savings into buying one Tumbler, with the promise of paying her the RRP price for it in one year's time if it doesn't rise in value in that one year. A trick I copied from another Brickpicker on this forum, heh heh. She feels that her money is safe now, and this can turn her into a believer down the line!

Too bad you can't use your target red card on ebay. Would be nice to take advantage of that with the 4x ebay bucks. I could get 2 ebay gift cards from target for 190, pay the remaining total and get the ebay bucks. Talking out my butt I will most likely just use my $200 target gift card with the red card.

where is the fun in FBA when you can roll up your office to the post office like this daily?

Stack some EBay gift card rollovers, double-VIP, sell some undesirable stuff, trade, or get lucky at Amazon Warehouse.

Latest AT-AT from Amazon arrived, 36R5 on the seals. Surprisingly, this is the nicest box I've received from Amazon in a long time. Even the shipping box is almost perfect. Not what I was expecting from this time of year, I guess the seasonal help hasn't been there long enough to become disgruntled.

For USPS Only: Not at that size. 24x16x4 and under are not affected by dimensional weight. Dimensional weight only applies for USPS Priority shipments that go to Zones 5 or higher and exceed a higher dimensional threshold (can't remember off the top of my head). The typical 84" and 108" length + girth restrictions still apply to Parcel Select and Priority Zones 1-4.

Thats why I say get one now and then and you won't be caught up in the panic buying, It seems like there will be many regrets on not getting a handful of them. i was buying a few each month since they came out, Got 25 all Mint Boxes. Ed

Found a 70810 Sea Cow at Target store. Probably a return as the box was a little beat up. Was priced 'As Is.' Paid 198.75 for it, tax free.

Yeah... it isn't what you call winter right now in Europe. So they've decided to come back early from Africa.

Maybe "mauro23" can call and order 10?

Whatever the answer might be, it probably goes way back to the relationship we have with our moms.

To whom it may concern: (LEGO Shop at Home EU)

Some minor set is "Call to check" at LEGO Shop at Home EU:

Once everyone who owns a Smaug realizes the dragon looks way cooler when you put Orthanc underneath it, that set will skyrocket. Or maybe not.

Bye bye Messrs Pisa and Space Needle and some more. http://shop.lego.com/en-DE/Seattle-Space-Needle-21003 http://shop.lego.com/en-DE/The-Leaning-Tower-of-Pisa-21015 http://shop.lego.com/en-DE/Construction-Crew-42023

At this site http://nl.lego.wikia.com/wiki/40221_(Polybag_10251) they mention the rumour about the free promo to go with the Brick Bank set. Picture looks pretty!

Nice. We used to have a fax machine like that in the last millennium.

Post pics if you can. Buying a 10179 is an event to remember.

I have tickets to the marathon Thursday morning starting at 3 am The mind is willing but the body is weak

4 Millennium Falcon Microfighers when I went to Walgreens to pick up a prescription.

Next week on Dr. Phil.....

There's counciling for things like this.

If you were wondering who's been buying all of your minifigures that you've sold on eBay, maybe it was Exxon. From reddit, this tree is in Exxon's HQ. A collection of 6 pictures is here: http://imgur.com/a/gTl6D

From a very reliable source, it will be StarKiller and around 4000 pcs.

My son is getting Dimensions, Obi-Wan and General Grievous 2-pack, S.H.I.E.L.D Helicarrier, and some Halo Mega Bloks. Yes, these are for me too. Spoiled we are...

I guess this counts as building. Have to share the story. My grandfather passed away last year. He liked to build model airplanes and things but had never mentioned Lego at all. So I get a package in the mail from my grandmother that I opened today, addressed to my kids. Inside is a note that says grandpa had bought a couple of sets at one point to tinker with, and she thought my kids would put them to good use now. One set is 4095 from the Inventor series (which my son is furiously trying to put together now). Has some sort of battery pack recorder thing we have to figure out. Very cool. The other set was a yellow and chrome broken mess...that I realized was the 10026 UCS Naboo Starfighter. Now rebuilt, 100% complete with nameplate and everything. Unfortunately no instructions - had no idea how expensive those suckers are! Only 3 on Bricklink for like $90 each lol. Anyway I have never liked that Naboo Starfighter, but it certainly will hold a new place of honor in our house now. :-)

There is no "Magic Set" - And the days of sets going to 4-5x MSRP, personally, I think - are more or less gone (minus the very occasional outlier before I get responses with the couple of sets that have done it). I think the POTC/Harry Potter wave was the end of that era in Brickvesting. There are lots of options, lots more folks in the game - I think 3x MSRP is going to be more or less "peak". I think even "hot" sets that aren't widely held like Town Hall and Super Star Destroyer will plateau around this mark. If your goal is to maximize your investing dollar, there's no reason to spend $150 on a set that retailed for $130. I imagine the ceiling for this set being $300, and probably $250-$270 may be more realistic which seems to be where a lot of sets in the last 3-4 years at this price point settle. You'd still make money of course, but percentage wise - not nearly as much. If your goal is to have a couple of a unique/rare set, well then go nuts. But if your goal is to get the most bang for your buck, as others have mentioned - Look for ISDs/At-Ats/Cantinas and even Imperial Hotels at small discounts or near MSRP as opposed to paying OVER MSRP for a set who probably that has already reached halfway to its max. Heck, I'd rather grab another Death Star at MSRP than 2 LM's at above. LM is obviously doing fine, but I think you wanted to be in at around $100-$110 max. As others have pointed out, maybe people especially in Europe snagged these at 50% off.