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  1. There have been a lot of changes since LEGO almost went bankrupt in the early 2000s: licensed sets became the norm, better designs started coming into production andLEGO became the world’s largest toy manufacturer. All this changes and subsequent success created a new breed of investing: buying sets and holding after their retirement date. For years, this alternative market went unnoticed, propping up the prices of popular sets such as the 10179 Millenium Falcon. As expected, however, higher returns attracted new investors, inherently changing the way the secondary market behaved. In this new era, with many more participants and higher price pressure, it is extremely easy for newer investors to get burnt out, make mistakes or even completely forget about their LEGO investing hobby (or business). For this reason, I decided to write this short article with some investment tips and strategies that can help the newer participants enjoy and make money from their favorite toy brand. Golden Rule: Set your long term goals LEGO investing is a lot like more traditional financial planning. If you don’t take the time to set some objectives, there will be no way to completely gauge success or even to properly develop an investment strategy. For that reason, the first step will be to figure out what exactly you are trying to achieve: Do you see LEGO investing as a key part of your investment portfolio or more as a side business/hobby for extra cash? To me, this is the most important question. Someone willing to seriously put some money into LEGO for the long term will need to consider a vastly larger number of factors than someone who is just willing to put in a small percentage of their funds. Insurance, proper storage and fund allocation take a more important role in the case of the former. In the case you see this more as an online business, a good inventory tracking system, shipping supplies and time will be the main considerations. Once you have determined you long-term strategy, it is important to figure out which types of sets you will be investing in. To me, focusing on large LEGO exclusives is the “safer” way to lock in a pretty decent return in the long term. While the capital investment and storage space required to invest in these sets is significantly higher/larger than the average, most of them have also produced some of the most consistent and positive returns in the investment market. It is easy to see why. We are talking about iconicand highly detailed sets, from both licensed and unlicensed themes, that the adult collector with a higher disposable income is very attracted to. That’s definitely the most attractive target market when investing in LEGO sets. Furthermore, the higher price point and space requirements limit the amount of sets that can be hoarded by the average investor, thus reducing supply in the long term. While some people may be able to spend several thousand dollars and dedicate a whole room to store those dozens of Death Stars, most people struggle with at least one of those two key considerations. This is not to say investing in smaller sets or even figures makes no sense. We all know that sometimes sets like the X-Wing 9493 produce outstanding percentage returns for one reason or another, so it is completely understandable for investor to consider these for investment. Also, non-exclusives get the advantage when it comes to acquiring them at significant discounts given LEGO’s policy of not allowing discounts on exclusives. The problem with these sets, in my opinion, is that it is so much harder to pick winners and avoid purchasing the duds. Does Home One ring a bell? Setting up an strategy After deciding which blend of sets you will be pursuing, it is time to set up a buying strategy. I think it is extremely helpful to figure out how many copies of a particular set you would like to have before retirement, and making periodic purchases to make sure you meet that goal. As an example, you could decide that you will purchase one Palace Cinema each month to make sure you get to your desired goal of 10 before retirement. Making sure you stick to your strategy will make it easier for you to achieve your minimum goal and avoid having to scramble to get multiple quantities when the set starts disappearing from the market. How many times have you read someone mentioning that they would like to have a couple more of a particular set when it is already too late? Don’t make that mistake yourself! If by the time a set starts showing signs of retirement you already have your minimum quantity, then whatever you are able to acquire after that will be just an extra source of happiness instead of stress. Of course, your strategy can be flexible enough to make sure that you are taking advantage of potential deals or discounts. For example, LEGO will be offering double VIP points in early October and it might make sense to hold this month’s purchases until then. Having said that, I recommend making this kind of behavior an exception rather than the norm; It just does not make sense to completely miss out of a set that ends up appreciating more than 50% because you waited a couple weeks to save 10%. Core-Satellite Approach Just like in the stock market, you can insert a little variety into your investing life by following the core-satellite approach. For example, let’s assume you have an investing budget of $1000 per month. You could divide this into a core fund of $800 that you will allocate to long term, safer investments (exclusives, Ideas sets or whatever you really want to add to your portfolio and keep for the long haul), while keeping the remaining $200 for riskier bets. You think Raptor Escape will be a Zombies 2.0? You can throw your money into some of those; want to try and flip some Wall-E sets before they are available? That works too! By dividing your investments in this manner you pretty much guarantee you’ll invest the $800 every month, while still having some money to test your set-picking prowess. This leads nicely into my last point. Personally, I believe that investing in LEGO should be not only profitable, but fun as well. It is easy to get inpatient or even bored when all you are doing is hoarding sets and not making any money out of it. While this is an essential part of any investment, I find that people should always try to keep things interesting and fun by trying to flip sets, sell minifigures or even re-selling used sets. Any of these activities will generate some extra income and make you feel a little more excited, therefore avoiding falling into a routine that can get boring over time. Obviously, these tips will not work for everyone. Find what works for you, think about your goals and stick to an strategy and you will be in the path of having a pretty healthy alternative income stream in the long run. Hope you enjoyed this article, thanks for reading!
    8 points
  2. My used Ewok Village sans minifigs arrived last week. Sorted the pieces over the course of the week then built up the village on Friday night. It lasted less than 24 hours where I dismantled it and put the purchase to it's real purpose. Saw this in the MOCs thread a couple months back and fell in love with it, had to have one. I present my personal edition of the 10236 UCS Lord of the Rings Ent!
    8 points
  3. Customer Service Agent: No problem sir, we can return these 8 MMs for you. Is there anything wrong with them? Customer: Well, nothing wrong with the set itself but I couldn't flip it for a profit because you guys restocked your shelves too quickly. CSA: Oh, I see... Well our 90 return window is for customers and not resellers. Let me call my manager over to see if that's OK. Customer: Oh wait, sorry, that was the "MM - Mystery Mansion" set that I couldn't flip... These are the "MM - Mystery Machines" and I decided not to give them to the kids that came to my child's birthday party a couple weeks ago. Sorry, I just can't keep all these abbreviations straight in my head... CSA: Well that makes perfect sense, let me start that return. Customer: Thanks, I appreciate it. CSA: You might want to check out Brickpicker.com .. they have tons of set abbreviations. You should learn them since that will help clear up misunderstandings the next time you need to return a cart full of merchandise.
    4 points
  4. 4 points
  5. some are very conflicted and do all 3
    4 points
  6. Wait a minute... is this a cryptic hint about the Sandcrawler NOT retiring?
    4 points
  7. That was my line. And the year is not over yet!
    3 points
  8. Yellow series 6 mixels (the extra set per case) $55 shipped
    3 points
  9. https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-ca/kids/toys/lego-minifigures-monsters-series-14/673419231534-item.html?ikwid=series+14+lego&ikwsec=Home&ikwidx=0
    3 points
  10. on the other hand, the stickers allow you the flexibility of putting other companies' logos on the containers. There are quite a few online sellers capitalising on this market.
    3 points
  11. I found monster minifigures at Walmart on clearance for $1.00 apiece. 51 all together. First one I opened was Tiger Lady !
    2 points
  12. Does it matter ? Tatooine had 2 suns, when 1 set and the other rose. It was always sunny there no matter what
    2 points
  13. I do like R2 for R2, but I'm not sure TFA is going to have that much impact on his immediate outlook. We can speculate, yes, but I'm not sure TFA is going to make it jump 25% - 50% over current market value in 2015 - 2016. That's just my feeling, pure opinion, of course.
    2 points
  14. non-existent. however years ago when i used to drive into the city for work it was at $47 an hour at the rock (worked for AP back then). easily wiping out the "savings". Also, spiderman might steal your stuff if you dont tip his sorry a55
    2 points
  15. Not sure if BP still has a minifig wanted/needed thread. On a positive note you did get extras of some Rares like the Witch but I know that doesn't mean much when you need a complete set of 16. Not at home now but I should be able to cover you on the ones you need.
    2 points
  16. Alpine, Based on my experience, you maybe able to do it...however, the issue is the online process to order in the store. When the store creates the order (from their computer system), they are unable to scan the barcoded coupons and apply the TRUTH. So what they have to do is... calculate the percentage off by hand/calculator, then generate a promo code in their system that takes off that exact dollar amount on the order, and then apply it to the order. You then have to print out the order and pay in store at the front register. This all takes time and work and takes away from other customers. However, the biggest issue is that the order can be a "red flag"...as corporate TRU questions the reason for the promo code that was generated by an employee. There is no track record of a coupon being used, since there is no physical barcoded coupon that was scanned. (Their computer system does not allow this). This makes corporate TRU think that something is shady or that an employee is hooking up a friend with a deal, etc. This can cause issues for the store, the managers and the employees. I believe most try to avoid the headache, and understandably so. Just my experience...
    2 points
  17. Over the weekend I sold two Creative Towers (10664) for $95.99 including shipping.
    2 points
  18. It's 4 floors and has a ferris wheel in it. The good stuff is on floor 2. It's rumored to be closing at the end of 2015 because of a 10x increase in the cost of leasing the space. From the outside it's one of the most unattractive store fronts in Times Square. You're nuts if you drive down there... and sadly, there is no TRU parking lot for flipping your hot cakes!
    2 points
  19. It´s a given - all SW sets without Disney boxes were retiring this year, weren´t they?
    2 points
  20. Box size comparision Mini Cooper vs. old T1 vs. new T1
    2 points
  21. Received my 4 RE's today, all 22r5 as expected. However they were shipped in a WM box. Either i was wrong and it's 3 a case, or they took them out of the case into their own box. I was sure they were 4 to a case, but oh well no big deal as they are all in good shape. Canada post decided to pull this on me: All that's missing is a picture of the SAW clowns (Jigsaw?) face saying "i want to play a game..." Needless to say this was a pain in the ass to wiggle out haha.
    2 points
  22. I believe TLG only wants one thing: sustained profitability. Period. Full stop. No company of its kind wants anything else. So the question the Lego company is constantly facing is: how do we (1) keep demand for our products up and (2) sell them for as much as we can? 1) They want people to be scrambling to acquire the sets they produce; they want people thinking "I'd better buy this right now because who knows when it will be retired and gone forever!" That is a very good mentality for Lego's customers to have. Lego's customers will take a much different approach to buying if they know they can get this same set in a few years for the same price. 2) And let's talk about price: Lego is VERY expensive! Almost outrageously expensive. Seriously. $200 for a spaceship made out of little bricks with a Star Wars logo on it? That's not cheap. But a huge reason why people are willing to spend $150, $200 or even $400 for a box of plastic bricks is because consumers believe in their value. Consumers believe these sets will always be worth what they paid for them, and will maybe even appreciate. Consumers trust in Lego because they are well made, last forever, and retain value. So the $200 price tag is softened quite a bit when you know it will always be worth this amount, even after you open and play with it. Compare this to my other hobby: my wine cellar. I often compare the two in my mind, and I think the comparison is worth pointing out here. Wine is consumable. The moment I pop the cork on a $400 bottle of Bond or Schrader or whatever, that "asset" just became worth nothing except the pleasure I'm about to experience as I drink it. Tomorrow morning I'm going to pee it all out and recycle the empty bottle. And my $400 Death Star? I can open it up and build it with my son. And then display it for a year while he plays with it. Then tear it apart and build a new scene with some of the pieces and minifigures and toss the bulk in a storage bin. Then we can find all the pieces again and build it all over in five years. And then get tired of it and put it all back in the original box with the instructions and sell it used and complete on eBay for $700. It sure makes it a lot easier for me to spend $400 on a Lego set than a bottle of cabernet once I go through all of this in my head... To sum up, I think TLG wants to retire sets, loves seeing prices skyrocket in the secondary market, and will not do anything that is going to screw up its own sustainable profitability. What TLG has done over the past 10 years has seen the company rise from the ashes to become this massive leviathan of money-making. If they started re-releasing numerous old sets or making their products available forever (i.e. stopped retiring them after 2-4 years) then the consumers' mindsets would really change. And profits would go down. And that isn't going to happen.
    2 points
  23. Look at what received the Architecture treatment.
    2 points
  24. Craigslist score both for $150. Pretty happy with this, did not expect to have these anytime soon.
    1 point
  25. Shipping tip... shipping this 3 lb brick cross-country almost cost me over $13. Then I found it fits nicely in a Medium Flat Rate box, and ships coast to coast for $11 and change. This is the first time I've ever found use for a flat rate box.
    1 point
  26. I just picked up all the Force Awaken sets from a wholeseller $45 tie fighter (75101) $50 poe's x-wing (75102) $55 transporter (75103) $90 millennium falcon (75105) $25 snowspeeder (75100) $75 kylo ren's command shuttle (75104) $13 rey's speeder (75099) TOTAL $353
    1 point
  27. If I were a betting man, I would put my chips on WM as biggest buyer of Lego
    1 point
  28. 1 point
  29. Maybe just take them back, full stop. Problem is it will proably retire the day after.....
    1 point
  30. T1 original box was used for numerous sets. For example 10226 Sopwith Camel.
    1 point
  31. If Vw is using the 42029 box then it is quite a bit longer and can fit on shelves mor easily being lower. I guess they are just standardising their packaging and eliminating unusual boxes (I don´t recall T1 original box being used for much else).The Mini box is the same or very similar to Tie Fighter, isn't it?
    1 point
  32. It's all a gamble really, but it's still a better investment than most things. Even the worst lego sets don't depreciate anything like comic books or sportscards, currency, etc. Plus you can always open em up and build em!
    1 point
  33. never see those before. sound like these are not the cases youre looking for. get your money back and move along
    1 point
  34. If you don't post for a while, we understand... Five finger discounts are frowned upon by stores.
    1 point
  35. strip style as in pegboard? i thought those are 80 or 100 count... this is what target gave me one time and it was way more than usual 60. if youre only getting 60 (on a beg board) from MFL you got ripped off and they were probably picked through
    1 point
  36. So, is flipping TRU in the TRU parking lot permitted?
    1 point
  37. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/320599440982?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT $18.50 for 100 of them. 18.5c per envelope. Perfect for minifigs, polybags may be a squeeze though. I bought these for minifigs the other week.
    1 point
  38. Are you seriously comparing quality control of a car maker to a toy maker? 20k-40k-??? cars are not in same league as $10-$400 LEGO sets. That might be the most foolish thing I've read on Brickpicker in months. Vehicles get recalled for issues of safety first and foremost... not because some pieces vary in color or the head droops on some silly robot. Let's not even start with the fact that car makers have far less makes/models than LEGO tries to produce in sets... or that they're designed by teams of highly skilled, educated and experienced engineers rather than some kids with a dream. We've bought and opened tens of thousands of dollars of LEGO in bulk and in sets. Not a single missing or broken piece. Color variations are so minimal we don't even notice (or care). Stickers always in good shape. I realize it happens, but it's pretty rare considering the amount of sets they produce. As for missing parts, it happens... entire bags of parts were missing from a specific run of GEs. We've read on the forum of a bag here or there missing.... I wonder what would happen if Toyota delivered it's next model Prius without a steering wheel.
    1 point
  39. Blade Roller VW Krokodil CEC Vertikale Denkfabrik Gearhead - Tank Destroyer
    1 point
  40. If only the hotel had a helicopter instead of a plane.... The train station is my favorite.
    1 point
  41. You guys encouraged me. I ordered a couple S14 cases from Indigo. Nice price at $190 shipped.
    1 point
  42. Raising the question of...what percentage of advice on this site is designed to help the members versus mislead them?
    1 point
  43. Regarding their buy in price, I agree it must be very low, like TRU and the big American chainstores. Perhaps Lego has renegotiated their wholesale discount so, indirectly, Amazon can´t sell so low. It is also possible that they are passing on to the consumer the increased tax burden they have faced since the EU ruling about being based in Luxembourg and their tax obligations.Timewise that fits but then there would be a correlation with other products.
    1 point
  44. Im starting to wonder if I've met my match in terms of packing analtivity.
    1 point
  45. I think he is running for US president now.
    1 point
  46. Disclaimer: I am a collector first and foremost, who occasionally dabbles in resale to make ends meet. I buy sets at probably a 9:1 personal collection vs. investment collection ratio. I'm the droid you're looking for when you list retired sets for well over RRP on Ebay. Currently I'm working on picking up sets from the following lines, with my ultimate goal to own the entire series of each when I'm done: Modular buildings, Architecture, Creator model buildings, Winter Village, The Lego Movie, all the major pirate ships since the 80's, Advanced models, large exclusives post-2011.
    1 point
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