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It sold fast. I went running for an hour and had six emails when I got back. The HP stuff could have brought more but no way was I going to dig through all that. This gets the rest of the lot I picked up down to $200 which includes a complete ucs Y wing, motorized atat, and about 10 other retired sw sets

Because their management is harping in their ear about it with whatever details were passed down to them, because their management is harping in their ear about it with whatever details were passed down to them, because their management is harping in their ear about it with whatever details were passed down to them, because their management is harping in their ear about it with whatever details were passed down to them, because their management is harping in their ear about it with whatever details were passed down to them, because their management is harping in their ear about it with whatever details were passed down to them, and you know what happens when things get whispered in the ear of person to person.

I tend to think that a lot of people here really overthink when it comes to trying to predict why a given set will be popular. For example, why would anyone assume that the "build" of a set would have any impact on its value? People who are willing to pay a premium for a given set on the secondary market are -- with few exceptions -- extremely unlikely to have ever built the set that they are paying a premium for.

I think they need a license w/ National Lampoon. I need a LEGO family truckster.

Having analyzed those LEGO Webshop EU graphs a bit for info on exclusive sets, one could draw some conclusions like the following 10 fun/trivia facts (without liability) - if the data found there is more or less correct: 1.) "Is this good or bad?" The worst selling exclusive sets in the shown timeframe of March 2015 were: - Benny's Spaceship - Sydney Opera House - Architecture Studio - Ewok Village - Fairground Mixer - Metal Beard's Sea Cow - The Tower of Orthanc So, not too much love especially for the LEGO Movie sets with Benny's Ship seemingly being THE worst selling exclusive overall in March. Now the big question is: What is better - Investing in slow sellers, so there is less competition (but also less demand) post-EOL; or investing in the big sellers, having to deal with masses of other resellers (while having more potential buyers)? 2.) "...if only this was less expensive" While Sydney Opera House, Ewok Village and The Tower of Orthanc didn't sell too well, they all made remarkable sale jumps in double VIP time, from which one could conclude that people merely regard them too expensive instead of generally unattractive (while the sales of the two above-mentioned Movie sets did not profit from double VIP...) 3.) Red 5...4...3...2...1 The EOL run for Red 5 seems to be in full swing because sales pre-2xVIP and during 2xVIP were somewhat identical and surprisingly high (for the set itself and also in relation to other SW sets) 4.) Too much, too late The Exo Suit is selling pretty good, but LEGO has amassed way too much stock for a set that should have been retired one month ago - maybe they ordered that massive stock some time ago already and were not able to cancel it while realizing too late that demand was not keeping its high level (like at the introduction of the set) and so they would get way too many sets in the end. 5.) The "No-restockers" While most sets got restocked 1-4 times during the period, there were 5-6 exclusives that got no restock at all - all of which are sets that were already stocked in high numbers. If this is a hint for possible EOL, I don't know. Why there are some sets stocked in very high numbers and others in rather small numbers - I also don't know. It might be a question of production capacity or/and LEGO's EOL plan. 6.) Old vs. New Death Star and Sandcrawler sales seem to be OK to good and pretty much on par - potentially leading to two quite different views on the sets (Death Star being 6 years older...) 7.) London calling It seems like 3+ Tower Bridges are sold for every 1 Sydney Opera House. 8.) Duel of the necomers Slave 1 seems to have slightly outperformed the Detective's Office during 2x VIP looking at "sets sold per day (when in stock)". 9.) Investors' Nightmare One of the worst selling non-exclusive sets is B-Wing with about 1 ("one") sold set per day in March... 10.) PC or PR Palace Cinema and Parisian Restaurant look to be selling equally well, having quite similar stock numbers (during March) and having gotten 3 restocks both (in March).

The same type of people that will be paying $1500 for one in a year or so.

I'd say at least his bathroom is neat and looks clean, probably better than a lot of (no offense) guys' apartments.

This set finally got knocked out of TRU online stock, which was the last holdout of the big retailers. Let the fun begin on this one.

I don't know about the rest of you guys but for me it says just2good made that post on Eurobricks at 12:46 AM which is right at the start of April 2nd yet if I try to quote it and place here, it reads as April 1st 7:46 PM. Two hours later he followed up with a second response. Now I am not being difficult on him. I am only stating more than likely he was merely having a laugh in case the Disney Minifigures series didn't ruffle enough feathers. Haha. Sure the Death Star model is old, already shown its age, and simply needs to leave for good but the matter is do we really need another and for what reason? I would sooner believe a rumor for a UCS A-Wing before a redesign of the Death Star even though it really could use one.

I bought 12 at retail price, but want at least 30 of these. I think these still have a lot of room to grow. I've been selling a bunch of ninjago sets at break even price, and a few other sets I don't really care for, and with that money, I've bought another 12 r2-d2 in the past couple days for about 330 each, shipped. Just doubled my stock to 24 now!!???? going to sell some vampire castles and buy some more. Maybe I'll shot for 50. I don't see why these won't be $500-600 in 2-3 years time.

Crawler 9398 $260 5 PS for $1000 (paid $700)

Sold 2 CTs on Craigslist for $80 apiece.

Maybe some do, maybe some don't. I'm sure many are buying simply because they have an attachment to whatever the finished model is, whether it's a Millenium Falcon or a Batmobile. Again, I agree that building a set can help one evaluate it but I don't think it's 100% necessary to do so in order to determine the worth of a set as an investment.

I've spent the morning (Friday off, here) extracting and copying data for most of the sets we're interested in. I have image files for all the currently available exclusives, plus many other sets. Just an FYI. There's so much to do here, lots of info to digest. Here's some early data. The best selling sets were the Helicarrier (700 units is 7 days, steady 100 units/day), Slave 1 (no surprise) and T1 (big surprise, data below). Other robust sales were of all the modulars (roughly 250 units/week for all), Tower Bridge (160 units/week), TOO (90 units/week). T1 was killer, (350 units/week till sold out); the mini cooper not so much. Sydney Opera house moved a steady 40 units/week. The trains were slow movers, and sold in lockstep at about 10 units/week (roughly same numbers of sale for 60050, 60051, and 60052 and the track packs). Speed Champions is interesting. In the EU, the Porsche was the best seller (almost 200 units/week, and the small cars all sold about equally. For every Ferrari Truck sold, they sold 3 sets of the small cars. There's some dogs with few sales, Fairground Mixer, Arctic Base Camp (10 units/week) and Simpson's House. Mindstorms EV3 was completely dead. 42009 moved a steady 60 units/week, while the 42030 Volvo Loader was slower at 30 units/week. In Star Wars, Slave 1 is the champ, which moved 350 units in 4 days to sell out. Sandcrawler was a good mover, 100 units/week, and Death Star which moved 80 units/week. Ewok Village did 50 units/week. Red Five moved at 90 units/week until sold out, twice. Another observation, double VIP sales period had little effect on the data. Basically all these sets had inventory levels move at the same rate pre- and during double VIP. This is just a snapshot, more analysis to come...

Don't know what this is, but don't think I should google it.

When it comes to investing in BIG sets it is common opinion that NONE of them will ever be a real loser. This is my opinion, too, but there are some popular big sets I think are fairly overrated and will in the end "lose" the race for becoming big investment winners after EOL. I do not intend to p*ss anyone off here, criticising their favorite sets. But as it is a common practice in this forum to tell people to "buy, buy, buy!" I thought it might not be a bad idea to make people think again about buying at least in some cases. In the end, of course, this is also to tell you my opinion on sets I just don't understand why they are being hyped the was they are - and to get to know what you think about it. The following sets released in 2014 might - in my opinion - become disappointments after EOL (for the following reasons): 1. MetalBeard's Sea Cow (70810) (My undisputed 1st place on this list. While I do have reservations about the whole LEGO Movie theme, this Cow imo might become an absolute grave for investors' money - maybe the only big set of 2014 you could indeed LOSE money on. Why: Ships generally have a very good reputation as investments - also for me -, my problem with this one here is that it is just "way too fantasy" and simply over the top - which worked in the movie but doesn't work for a set (you invest your bucks in). Neither is it a real ship nor a pirate ship nor is it looking like a historical one. How is any AFOL going to want this after EOL, when the movie hype is over? I mean even for fans of the movie, I don't see too many people pony up $250. Plus it is a LEGO own theme, which is ambiguous on its own already. Has there ever been a set from one of their own themes this expensive?) 2. The Simpsons House (71006) (The main issues here for me are the price and the target group. As a set it looks quite good and accurate to the series, I think, and Simpsons fans will surely love it. BUT: besides them - who else? Furthermore the series is (long) past its peak. It might be in its 20th season but interest is nothing like in the 90s. Anyone investing 200 dollars now might not get their money back for a long time, I fear.) 3. Sandcrawler (75059) (I don't get why people like this set: it is brown, it is clumsy, it is ugly, it has never been an especially popular vehicle in the movies. And even now while being on the market I can't imagine too many people spending 300 bucks on this thing. Not to mention post-EOL performance. Even if you see it as a play set in the first place - which it is supposed to be, I guess. It just does not convince me to spend any money on it. And by the way: I AM a fan of the LEGO Star Wars theme...) 4. Fairground Mixer (10244) (Yes, it might be the beginning of a new summer theme and yes, it might be a cool design idea and cool to construct - but, well, aesthetically it doesn't convince me at all. I saw it built in a LEGO shop and I have to say: That thing looks even more confusing live than it does on the package. If you don't know the name of this set and you look at it, it might actually take up to half a minute to get an idea what this "multi-colored set-up" could be all about. The Mixer might be nice for kids to play, but as an investment? No.) 5. Cargo Plane (42025) (If you asked me I'd say: Don't waste your money on this! While it seems like a good investement at first glance, I doubt this set will ever become popular among TECHNIC fans and even among European TECHNIC fans. From what I know, TECHNIC enthusiasts love construction site equipment! Not too much besides that. Anything flying is quite rare is this theme - for a reason. Have a look at the EOL-gone Helicopter (9396): For a short time people thought it would really "take off" now it is retired, but the value graph tells another story - down from $130 to $100 in just TWO months. My conclusion: TECHNIC don't fly.) Looking forward to your opinions and your personal list!

Thanks to tk924 i was able to replicate what he did and make a few displays myself! I didn't have any photo paper, but i did cut and glue the images to old photos i had for some rigidity, and used a drummel to obtain the 3x8 plate required to fit. These also make really cool gift ideas. My brother is a huge Boba fan, and i'll probably give him the case for a birthday or something (he has to supply his own fig of course )

For sanity's sake, every loose loose lot of this size should include this.

Personally I think exclusives will always be retired to make way for new ones. Otherwise why retire TH, GE, R2, EEE, SSD etc? Of the two London stores I visit they've always stocked all available exclusives. In any line of business products are retired and replaced with new ones, Lego are no different. It keeps the brand interesting. 1000th post

I hope this is mostly meant in jest.

I think you all should stop right now to invest into LEGO. The discussion clearly shows (scientifically proven) that not only the sets on the list but also every single other set will not appreciate and you shouldn't invest. Please bring your already bought sets to my adress and I will take care of them for you.

The dude over at EB that posted this nonsense is laughing at all of you right now.....just so you guys know.

Yes but the build experience is a subjective thing too. I hated the build of the 4x4 crawler as it is so repetitive but for a parent with young kids it could be a wonderful project to construct and play with or display. I think that a lot of the time people value the scarcity of the product more than the intrinsic qualities it has - is Caf

I believe LEGO is thinking about DS as the police HQ of City. The police theme differs year to year (swamp, forest, etc.), but there is always a HQ. It doesn't sound too far fetched that LEGO wants a huge DS constantly on offer. It's practically became the very symbol of LEGO Star Wars since its release. It is well known outside of the LEGO community. Not offering it might be perceived as a bigger risk to prestige than releasing a new one straight after retirement. I wouldn't call it retirement if this happens anyway. Just a refresh, if LEGO truly intends to always have a DS in its offering. Also I can't repeat enough times that LEGO cares about Average Customers. The DS has a unique place among exclusives with a widespread appeal, they can sell this much because people who aren't collectors and enthusiasts also buy it. I would say those are the majority. They buy this for Christmas when their son gets 8 years old, for graduation etc. None of the other exclusives have this much presence. Therefore it is reasonable to assume that LEGO doesn't care about the loud minority on forums who want other sets because they already have a DS. They are not the target customers. They can have the other UCS-s and modulars. DS is for the masses. Explains the 8 year production run and the business policy of refresh also makes sense in this case. If there is a constantly high demand, why retire it instead of a refresh? Milk the cow until it runs dry.

I would love it to retire as much as you guys do and while I respect the theory mentioned, saying it will poof because a Ferrari is coming along is not necessarily going to make it so - based on past evidence. Exciter asked a valid question about the Mini which is still waiting to be answered- last year people rushed to buy campers on the premise it was going because the Mini was coming and it didn

Also, how may sets are actually bought by and for the end user? Many are non AFOL wives buying stuff for their husbands or kids - they don

Thanks guys! Speed sausage, I've replied to your very informative thread, thanks for pointing me out this one!

I don't have any set method of picking sets. Sometimes I see them and know I have to have it. Sometimes I watch a video and say, "Hey, that's pretty cool!" and buy it. Sometimes I read a comment or review and think the set is interesting. What I do know is that there is not one LEGO set that I have ever built that I don't appreciate in some way. Maybe it's a minifigure or brick color. Maybe it's a certain brick or creative building technique. Maybe it's a moving part or final display attribute. I usually will pimp what I buy and build. Now the one thing I hate with any LEGO set is stickers and if it has a ton of stickers, I try not to build those. The Triple E was an exception. Loved the ship. Hated the stickers and that set's value can be affected by the excessive sticker count.

Over analysis is the name of the game here, you didn't get that memo?

Personally, I would sell all to the reseller. You'll have trouble competing to get single buyers there. $8.88/$8.60 shipping per polybag kills.

Not trying to be a jerk but you need to realize real quick that it doesn't matter what the buyer does with the items. He could sell them, burn them, build a huge bumper car for all I care. Only thing that matters is that YOU get the PRICE you WANT. You also need to consider 1 sale for all 20 vs. 1 per order. Decisions, decisions, decisions, that's all we do.

Just finished a used HH I picked up a couple of weeks ago, and I don

I agree that you can gain some insight from actually building and seeing a set in person. That being said, someone paying top dollar for it down the line presumably has not and is judging based on box pics, internet photos, etc. -- the same stuff that a primary market buyer has access to. So it's not the be all end all either.

I find it hard to take the opinion of investors that haven't actually built what they are discussing. If a person has built it, and then had a negative opinion, that is one thing, but to take investment advice from someone that hasn't sat and actually put together a set that has over 3000 pieces, and takes many hours to build makes me skeptical of that "sound advice". UCS sets are much different than some small to mid-range set. I'm building the Sandcrawler as we speak, and it's quite an amazing set.

Southcenter Mall in Tukwila, WA is getting a new Lego store!!! Apparently opening Summer 2015. I'm ecstatic that I will now have 2 within 20 min. drive and 3 within 40 min. drive!

Lego ultra agent mission hq is $80 at bigw. It has the little yellow sticker on the box $80

A London lego store had about 15 on the shelf yesterday. It's still going strong.

I'm very new on this forum, although a long time collector (the guy who usually buys stuff he was late for because of the Dark Age from you guys ), and I'll give you my perspective on these (remember, more gut feeling, less hard data, I'm very much a novice in investing): 1. See Cow - I never understood anything Lego movie related. I'm a 30+ adult without kids, therefore even as a Lego unconditional, of course I didn't watch it or have been remotely attracted to watch kids' movie. Same goes for sets, nothing really legendary (and no, it won't become next SW or LoTR) for an adult collector who is supposed to shell out 2x or more RRP on this set. Completists? Sure. Others? Selected few enthusiasts who got the set recommended on its supposedly great build, but for that one does not shell out 2x RRP imho. You need to WANT and LOVE and FEEL the set to get your willingness to pay to 400

Simpsons House is gonna do fine, in North America at least. Sandcrawler will also do well as even the old Sandcrawler went up in value despite looking like complete garbage. Fairground Mixer doesn't have the qualities that are typically associated with a good AFOL set. Sea Cow is a total wild card but I will pass on it because I think there is lower hanging fruit to be picked.

Have any of you actually built the Sandcrawler? If you actually built it, I don't see how you can hate it. It's an amazing set..

2 lbs. used blue 2x2 2x3 2x4 2x6 LEGO bricks and 1.25 lbs. used white 2x2 2x3 2x4 2x6 LEGO bricks for $35 +shipping.

You're right. That's the reason why I picked up 1 Tumbler when I could save 20

Made my first brick classified sale yesterday to a fellow BPer. Mixels series 2 blue tribe x 132 $835us shipped (My biggest sale to date)

Fire Brigade logic states otherwise......I would go for it, especially if you don't have any.

Please tell me this is a joke. If not please leave this forum and never come back.

70163 Toxic Stinger by LegoScarz

Right. They wanted to connect with old farts like me who did build Benny's Spaceship 30 years ago.

Saying there are worse and better sets to spend your money on makes perfect sense. It's a hint as to which big sets you should spend big bucks. Had I included every big set in this list, you would have been right. But I didn't. I just recommend people better buy the good sets, not the bad or the ugly.

That is a solid price. Glad I picked up my lot of UG from Target when they did their 50% clearance!