1 minute ago, OCD_Chad said:

All the people that want one but can't or won't pay reseller prices.

 

Right - as @Clintonjoseph said - those who'd buy bogus bricks...

Look, the Taj Mahal is a beautiful and iconic building with quite the story about it's construction, but it's not even in the same galaxy for fan base as the Millennium Falcon and Star Wars. The set will sell but I don't think very well after the initial demand. They're digging themselves a hole ... regular collectors are starting to wonder why the prices are so damn high.

Man I need to pick up my selling activities and turn on that plastic crap into paper crap then into shiny crap.  This is stupid, plain stupid and my respect for the company is dwindling fast. 

People are already unloading their old Taj Mahal's on eBay..... very sad day for all those people =(

Edited October 30, 20178 yr by Fleck
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17 minutes ago, Val-E said:

Here is a side-by-side. Do any of you remember the April´s Fool from a couple of years back (I think from The Brick Fan) when they said CC was going to be reissued? Reality is better than fiction.

Interesting that 14 year olds are not as capable as they used to be according to the box.  

Lego has tanked in quality in the last two years and this isn't a surprise.  No creativity, rerelease after rerelease.  What a mess.

4 minutes ago, OCD_Chad said:

All the people that want one but can't or won't pay reseller prices.

 

But how many people will really care?  I would have LOVED to find an old one, but now I have zero interest in this set.  There WAS something special about the set precisely because it was rare and prohibitively expensive.  Now it's just another expensive D2C set that won't be in high demand after Jan 2018 and will take up a ton of retail space.

5 minutes ago, Captain_chaos said:

But where were these people when the set was out the first time? 10189 is (was) worth so much because it was rare, which is because few people bought one. I'd wager that the majority of people saying they 'missed out', or that buy fake ones, say / do so because of the value and fame of 10189. It has a prestige associated with it that makes people want it. The next set won't have a prestige, so nobody will care.

Additionally, many people will buy this new one because they feel they are getting a great deal. If sets get rehashed and don't appreciate in the first place, people will start to remember why they baulked at spending £300 on some plastic before. 

You sir are 1000.78% correct 

4 minutes ago, Val-E said:

I guess it is the brick separator.

If that really is the new part, this will go down as one of the funniest things ever IMO. It would almost be worth buying to build and then take a video of the tear-down with the "new" part and posting about how useful it is.

Mystery solved 

6 minutes ago, gregpj said:

Right - as @Clintonjoseph said - those who'd buy bogus bricks...

Look, the Taj Mahal is a beautiful and iconic building with quite the story about it's construction, but it's not even in the same galaxy for fan base as the Millennium Falcon and Star Wars. The set will sell but I don't think very well after the initial demand. They're digging themselves a hole ... regular collectors are starting to wonder why the prices are so damn high.

In the announcement video they specifically said it is for the fans that have been requesting re-releases.  Those people want the real thing.

1 minute ago, Bold-Arrow said:

Mystery solved 

Somebody should reply to that tweet and ask when the designer video is going to drop

 

13 minutes ago, Darth_Raichu said:

CAn't wait to see the BOX designer video for this

I’ll be down for a box designer video if it features this guy.....

 

Edited October 30, 20178 yr by California92563

LEGO are doing (and have done) unbelievable damage to their own value (way, way, way more than any perceived damage that the knockoffs could ever cause).
LEGO sets were worth more (and commanded a premium) because they were inevitably worth more than just a bunch of plastic toy pieces - now they are just overpriced plastic.
I am truly astounded at the level of their stupidity.

I agree. Short term bump. Long term fail. They are nervous. They are getting anxious in Denmark. A bad year in sales and they are looking for quick fixes. Too bad. Look at it his way....LEGO profits will continue disappoint and these remakes will help mask the main issues for awhile. Then the whole primary and secondary markets will weaken for years and make a comeback in a decade or so after they realize that old ideas are just that....old and that perceived values were indeed a major factor in their recent success.

I hope the resellers make a killing off of Falcons and Taj Mahals this Christmas and piss everyone off...

6 minutes ago, OCD_Chad said:

In the announcement video they specifically said it is for the fans that have been requesting re-releases.  Those people want the real thing.

...until they are asked to spend real dollars on it.  Lots of people request lots of things, and then don't want to pay for them when they are available.  Sometimes you have to be the adult in the room and look at the overall health of the child instead of feeding the children candy all day.

Edited October 30, 20178 yr by Sfcommando14

While this is a huge kick in the balls since I BL'd this a couple years ago for twice the price, at least I can get cheap instructions now since it's a damn clone of the original.  What a joke.  At least the MILF was a huge upgrade.  

1 minute ago, Sfcommando14 said:

Sometimes you have to be the adult in the room and look at the overall health of the child instead of feeding the children candy all day.

Metaphor of the year. 

6 minutes ago, OCD_Chad said:

In the announcement video they specifically said it is for the fans that have been requesting re-releases.  Those people want the real thing.

I'd say that too if I was taking the lazy route... marketing spin is for the sheeples.

LEGO just laid off 1400 workers ... you'll never convince me this is about the fans. It's about the bottom line and LEGO clearly thinks this will help them short term. The number of collectors they've pissed off with the remakes will catch up to them .. don't believe the hype of all the 16 year olds on Brickset saying they can't wait to buy this set, they never will!

Lego is having emails etc about all the iconic sets before 2008 everyday. . After 2008, they was a spike in investing, that got worst over time, and a hell of a new fanbase, so i find it normal that they re-release all the kits before that era, because most of the fans doesnt have one. Most of them, and they want one. They expended so dramaticly that prior 2008 huge set wasnt procuced in the same quantity has today, which helped for the reselling value alot, but new fans after 2008 are so huge that i don't see why lego woulnt re-release them, it will sell like hot cakes.  i wouldnt buy a taj at those insane price. I don't have one, and i will get one. Not happy for the reselling value, but everything has a end. simple has that.  I just hope it's for a limited time and it wont be 2-3 years on the shelf

 

Edited October 30, 20178 yr by TargetZero

Responding to demand isn't stupid.  Appeasing fans over some bitter collectors won't hurt them.

Once you take resellers from the mix, demand will lower. Don't let the fake demand surrounding the new Falcon fool you. It was underproduced and/or undersold on purpose. The fans should be complaining about dated ideas and models. Without perceived values, people might as well buy counterfeits to save money.

12 minutes ago, Sfcommando14 said:

...until they are asked to spend real dollars on it.  Lots of people request lots of things, and then don't want to pay for them when they are available.  Sometimes you have to be the adult in the room and look at the overall health of the child instead of feeding the children candy all day.

Sure they will.  Look at the status of 75192 right now.

7 minutes ago, TargetZero said:

I just hope it's for a limited time and it wont be 2-3 years on the shelf

 

Why?  If the purpose is to make sure everyone can have one, why make it limited?

Sure they will.  Look at the status of 75192 right now.

MF/SW > random architectural wonder building in a country most people haven't visited. Apples and oranges my friend. This compares more with SOH

23 minutes ago, Fleck said:

People are already unloading their old Taj Mahal's on eBay..... very sad day for all those people =(

The greedy hoaders have had plenty of time to offload at a vast profit and it was only a matter of time before LEGO bit them on the arse.

It wouldn’t surprise me if all the old modulars get resurrected too. It also wouldn’t surprise me if all the Harry Potter sets were rehashes too.

LEGO were once the biggest toy company in the World, they soon won’t be anymore!

Just think of the people who aren't aware of this news and pick up 10189 in the next few days thinking they got a deal. 

Just now, oneknightr said:

Just think of the people who aren't aware of this news and pick up 10189 in the next few days thinking they got a deal. 

I bet I counted 5 or 6 posted on ebay in just this past hour !!!!

12 minutes ago, California92563 said:

 

I’ll be down for a box designer video if it features this guy.....

 

That would make a great Halloween special