andyposterfan Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 38 minutes ago, Captain_chaos said: I'm probably going to order a couple for the same reason. Can return them if they come back. Why buy from JL? Easy to pick up at Lego stores and you get the promos (no price difference) fyi - I'm confident we have more time. I already sold the 2 I had to make space for other things for a bit longer. One was built and still got back what I paid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TabbyBoy Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 hours ago, John82 said: Is that it, you need to round that up to 300 lol I was going to stick at 250 so that I have one to go with every 21312 I have, but rumours of early EOL have tempted me somewhat. I'll build another and that'll leave a nice round 10 to sell on their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TabbyBoy Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, andyposterfan said: Why buy from JL? Easy to pick up at Lego stores and you get the promos (no price difference) fyi - I'm confident we have more time. I already sold the 2 I had to make space for other things for a bit longer. One was built and still got back what I paid How can those that live nowhere near a LEGO store pick up with promos? My nearest ones are London which are a pain to get to. There's nothing wrong with going huge on these as it's a dead cert to get your money back. I love a no-lose punt ;-) Edited January 14, 2018 by TabbyBoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TabbyBoy Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 How about a HUKD post to wipe out John Lewis? I'd order more, but I need keep an eye on space ;-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiej1979 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Maybe when ours have all been delivered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Good job, TLG - level 5 Microsoft Certified Reseller Trollers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_chaos Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, andyposterfan said: Why buy from JL? Easy to pick up at Lego stores and you get the promos (no price difference) fyi - I'm confident we have more time. I already sold the 2 I had to make space for other things for a bit longer. One was built and still got back what I paid Not easy when the nearest Lego store is a 2 hour drive away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas007 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Its crazy that you are thinking about soon retirement of one of the best sellers! TLG would be completely crazy to do this. I also cannot believe that they would accept a licence limited just for a half of year with finishing in the end of 2017, and if, they would put "retiring soon" notice on it. Ghostbusters 21108 was licensed set and live for 2.5 years - that is the minimum period for such hot seller. Plus, Saturn is not a classic license, for which you need to pay a lot of money. I expect long life for Saturn. And very very complicated decision on when to buy them - very big risk of sitting on many saturns for many years waiting for retirement.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, fantomas007 said: Its crazy that you are thinking about soon retirement of one of the best sellers! TLG would be completely crazy to do this. I also cannot believe that they would accept a licence limited just for a half of year with finishing in the end of 2017, and if, they would put "retiring soon" notice on it. Ghostbusters 21108 was licensed set and live for 2.5 years - that is the minimum period for such hot seller. Plus, Saturn is not a classic license, for which you need to pay a lot of money. I expect long life for Saturn. And very very complicated decision on when to buy them - very big risk of sitting on many saturns for many years waiting for retirement.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TabbyBoy Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 21104 Mars Rover was red hot and had a short life. Even a 2 year wait for S5 is no big deal. I've already waited 5 years for my T1s! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 21104 Mars Rover was red hot and had a short life. Even a 2 year wait for S5 is no big deal. I've already waited 5 years for my T1s!You may be waiting for another 5 years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxio Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 4 hours ago, TabbyBoy said: Since you asked... I have 261 once the JL ones arrive ;-) Come on now Tabby, we need a pic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, Cheese said: You may be waiting for another 5 years No way. It will either retire before that or he´ll crack and flip them or swap them for something else. It´s the fools panic buying at RRP or above that we should pity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TabbyBoy Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Val-E said: No way. It will either retire before that or he´ll crack and flip them or swap them for something else. It´s the fools panic buying at RRP or above that we should pity. I was naive back in early 2013 as I thought that the T1 would be gone by 2015. My guess is that it does, in fact, have another 5 years to go, TB also. Edited January 14, 2018 by TabbyBoy inept digital dexterity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, TabbyBoy said: I was naive back in early 2013 as I thought that the T1 would be gone by 2015. My guess is that it does, in fact, have another 5 years to go, TB also. To be fair, many of us without inside info thought that. There was a similar pattern to what is happening now with S5, T1 was going in and out of stock and it seemed a given it was done. Then they just kept making more and more and more. 2013 was when they also seemed to move from fixed production schedules to a more dynamic system based on sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crayxlp Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 but if Im not mistaken .. you two are trying to compare some "regular, official" LEGO box next to (known from the start) time limited IDEAS box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyposterfan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Captain_chaos said: Not easy when the nearest Lego store is a 2 hour drive away. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandyHand Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 6 hours ago, crayxlp said: but if Im not mistaken .. you two are trying to compare some "regular, official" LEGO box next to (known from the start) time limited IDEAS box. Quite true. Lego Ideas doesn't follow the 'regular' rules for Lego set retirement. Starting with the Ideas 213xx series, these are the production (availability) times: 21301 Birds: 11 months 21302 TBBT: 16 months 21303 WALL-E: 16 months 21304 Doctor Who: 13 months 21305 Maze: 8 months (due to being a poor seller) 21306 Yellow Submarine: 14 months 21307 Caterham Seven: 15 months 21308 Adventure Time: 12 months (Retired in Europe due to being a poor seller, still available in USA) That's an average of 13 months of availability. Considering that Saturn V is now available for 7 months, and it's a beast of a seller, it would be unlikely that this set is already retiring now. But ... production problems and possible distribution issues (at least here in Europe) could mean an unexpected early retirement. Still, I do not expect Saturn V to be on the brink of retirement already. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) Nice summary. Good to see that my point about being a good seller is validated by production life. I doubt they are losing money on every set they build and Ideas sets don´t use new parts so they should easily be able to calculate their costs. The main culprit is more likely to be the buggy SAH website, which has proved time and time over to be untrustworthy. Edited January 15, 2018 by Val-E 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiej1979 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Called customer services about this set and she also confirmed that this set has 20 pieces shared with the Falcon and there's been a lot of complaints about the availability of the Falcon and demand for that is high along with profit levels on the Falcon with it being Star Wars. She also suggested that the Falcon would get priority because it's Star Wars and because the Falcon is such a big flagship set for them. Just speculating but maybe that means the UCS Falcon could be going into main stream production? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandyHand Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, richiej1979 said: Called customer services about this set and she also confirmed that this set has 20 pieces shared with the Falcon and there's been a lot of complaints about the availability of the Falcon and demand for that is high along with profit levels on the Falcon with it being Star Wars. She also suggested that the Falcon would get priority because it's Star Wars and because the Falcon is such a big flagship set for them. Just speculating but maybe that means the UCS Falcon could be going into main stream production? The UCS Falcon already is in mainstream production. There are now several general toy retailers getting (limited) stock of the UCS Falcon. IF TLG puts a production priority on the UCS Falcon because it's just more profitable than the Saturn V, and therefore decides to quit production of the Saturn V to free up production capacity for the UCS Falcon, THEN the Saturn V sets we've stashed away will be pure gold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, richiej1979 said: Called customer services about this set and she also confirmed that this set has 20 pieces shared with the Falcon and there's been a lot of complaints about the availability of the Falcon and demand for that is high along with profit levels on the Falcon with it being Star Wars. She also suggested that the Falcon would get priority because it's Star Wars and because the Falcon is such a big flagship set for them. Just speculating but maybe that means the UCS Falcon could be going into main stream production? It already has. TRU, Galería and a number of US merchants have been listing it and the 3-month exclusivity period is over. 20 pieces shared is not a lot in the scheme of things. Now, the important question - did she say it was going to retire or when it would be available to order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiej1979 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Val-E said: Now, the important question - did she say it was going to retire or when it would be available to order? She didn't know but she said "I really can't see this retiring" as it's been a great set for them but then she also said the "Machine can only mould so many parts". My guess is the Saturn and the Falcon will probably just be hard to get hold of for a while whilst they both fight over each others parts. I guess it depends how well the UCS Falcon sells and if the demand for that is high then the Saturn V will suffer. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 So no tentative availability date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiej1979 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Val-E said: So no tentative availability date? There's still a few available to order but you'll need to call them to check stock. I imagine the one's they have won't be there for long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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