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Yeah sorry to hear that but I don't know the market in Slovenia, I would take a wild guess and say it's not as good as Germany or he U.S. to resell items so you need to ship international?

 

But as mscheaf said: Then don't offer free shipping?

 

Well its a small market..... If i want to sell something and not wait for 6-12 months for a buyer, I need to go international yes.

 

 

Thats not the point, free shipping or not, shipping still costs as it costs.... if I put set for 150$ + 60$ shipment it is exactly the same as if i put it on 210$ and free shipping.....  the overall Worldwide value (US) still has to exceed the same mark in $$$ for buyers to consider buying mine with or without free shipping.

 

Its just I did not check this good enough, before buying, and effectively kicked myself, its just trouble, guess ill wait a lot longer.......

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Let's be real, nobody on eBay is offering "free" shipping. If something costs a lot to ship then you just up the selling price to cover it. If shipping cost is the determining factor for a good investment, then all the high valued, retired exclusives are terrible investments.

 

I think the issue is that in a global marketplace that heavy packages favor those that can get the initial set cheap and have different postage options - with what I am guessing is a smaller market in Slovenia, he has to factor shipping into his ability to sell without being undercut. I have similar issues - CanadaPost is great for shipping within Canada but if I need to sell internationally, the cost is way higher, meaning I'm less competitive on price for larger, heavier sets.

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Well, certainly Alcarin "offers" shipping because there's an option on ebay to select "free shipping only", like on amazon. :)

 

And I understand that, it's a good choice he made.

 

Unfortunately, there's also the option to select items "from cheaper to more expensive", so it will rank his items at the end.

 

It's a choice, both as a seller and as a buyer. I'm ok with both. And to be true: some of my items have free shipping, some not (it depends).

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Well, certainly Alcarin "offers" shipping because there's an option on ebay to select "free shipping only", like on amazon. :)

 

And I understand that, it's a good choice he made.

 

Unfortunately, there's also the option to select items "from cheaper to more expensive", so it will rank his items at the end.

 

It's a choice, both as a seller and as a buyer. I'm ok with both. And to be true: some of my items have free shipping, some not (it depends).

 

Well usually I offer free shipping (and calculate it inside the price) or in other words....

 

Cheapest ''free shipping'' or cheapest item + shipping on ebay must equal my green point (so I make my desired profit) to list the item....

 

For example if cheapest Helm's Deep is being sold for 180$ + 32$ shipping so thats 212$..... now if i calculate that shipping worldwide (to compete with that price) is 65$ that means 212$ - 15% (for all costs from fees to packing etc) and then -65$ for free shipping  so thats 182$ - 65$ = 117$ would be my ''net'' outcome from the sale...... and i paid 90

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Well usually I offer free shipping (and calculate it inside the price) or in other words....

 

Cheapest ''free shipping'' or cheapest item + shipping on ebay must equal my green point (so I make my desired profit) to list the item....

 

For example if cheapest Helm's Deep is being sold for 180$ + 32$ shipping so thats 212$..... now if i calculate that shipping worldwide (to compete with that price) is 65$ that means 212$ - 15% (for all costs from fees to packing etc) and then -65$ for free shipping  so thats 182$ - 65$ = 117$ would be my ''net'' outcome from the sale...... and i paid 90

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If it is not a good investment under your circumstamces: why do you participate in lego investing business? Just to be a part of it? I dont want to offend you but for me it does not make sense at all!

And crying at the low us prices wont help your situation ;-)

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If it is not a good investment under your circumstamces: why do you participate in lego investing business? Just to be a part of it? I dont want to offend you but for me it does not make sense at all!

And crying at the low us prices wont help your situation ;-)

But crying at the low U.S. prices still feels good ^.^

"What you bought XYZ for retail price at 99,99$??? I found it at target for 79,99$!" - "You're kidding right? Found some for 59,99$ at walmart clearance!" - "Haha, guess I'm lucky, got 10 for 30$ at a garage sale" - "I found 100 MINT boxes under the brooklyn bridge and some dudes helped me carry them and bought me free milk shakes and a diamond-studded watch and 10 georgeous ladies gave a me a foodmassage afterwards, did I mention that it was with happy ending?"

 

At the same time European are like "Yeah found XYZ (note: the same set!) for 148,99

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Not sure if this has been posted. Most likely it has. WOW

http://imgur.com/gallery/oVNF2

Haven't seen it here before but have seen found it via google before ;-)

I love those MOCs and Helms Deep is one of those really nice ones that makes you wish that you could be a kid again and play with it ^.^

(Or have it at home and be able to play with it as an adult, I guess most people here'd do that anyhow xD )

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I was looking at this set again the other day, in comparison to the Tower of Orthanc. It hit me that i think i'd pay more for Helm's Deep over the Tower, and i think other LOTR fans will feel the same in years to come.

 

I know that the Tower was 200 retail and Helms was just 130, BUT, just looking at them side by side, i much prefer Helms. 

 

There's variety of colors, more figures, its' more expansive, more details interior and exterior, and it's a castle with an invading army vs......a monochrome tower. 

 

If you add in the ability to augment Helms with Uruk Hai army and castle walls, i think that' much more interesting than adding 1 or 2 black gates to Orthanc. Again just more black sharp shiny bricks.

 

5 years from now if you told me these sets BOTH cost 169.99 at retail, i'd believe it.

 

5 years from now if they were both on a collectibles store shelf and i seeing them for the FIRST time, & wanted ONE of these sets, i'd pick Helms every time, and I'd pay more for it than the Tower.

 

I'm not a true LOTR fan, but i've seen the movies, and i much prefer Helms Deep to Tower of Orthanc. This realization surprises me, but there it is. Anyone with me?

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