I didn't have a clue where to put this, but it made me laugh

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2395039-to-be-MAD-about-bloody-Lego-Friends-airport-where-the-pilot-is-a-MAN

I didn't have a clue where to put this, but it made me laugh

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2395039-to-be-MAD-about-bloody-Lego-Friends-airport-where-the-pilot-is-a-MAN

​"I didn't have a clue what 'YANBU' was, but [when I found out] it made me laugh.

Better start hoarding those Friends planes... before Lego will retire this set and release a new one with a female pilot.

Can you imagine the investment potential? 

This is a "first world" problem if I've ever seen one.  Some people just try to find a reason to be unhappy.  I don't hang out with those people, but am in-laws with some of them.

It is truly amazing what some people will complain about.

These "Legos" don't taste like ANYTHING!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

​"I didn't have a clue what 'YANBU' was, but [when I found out] it made me laugh.

​May I ask what's YANBU? I googled and found a sea port?

​May I ask what's YANBU? I googled and found a sea port?

​You Are Not Being Unreasonable

In my day, we used sentences.

Edited June 5, 201510 yr by dcdfan

​May I ask what's YANBU? I googled and found a sea port?

​I also found the sea port. I only found what it actually meant after I googled "yanbu acronym".

"Dude looks like a lady." - Aerosmith. YABU!

YABU

you are being unreasonable

YANBU

you are not being unreasonable

YABOS

you are being over-sensitive

 

I hate these feminazi ****... So swap the heads! Or use a different Minifigure as pilote... who really is caring are the parents, not even the children, because they can use their fantasy to make everyone the like the pilote... that's the point in LEGO.

Also it's not unhealthy for children if the toy reflects just a little bit on reality... let's face it 90% of pilotes are male and 90% of flight attendents are female.

Also the dude looks feminine enough to be a short haired women :-P

 

Besides having strong female characters included in their toys (which is important for girls of course! And also boys can benefit from that...) it's also important to have strong male characters in their toys... Why should all girl toys put the all the male characters only into minor roles? That's just as wrong as it is the other way around.

I really appreciate how they add more female characters into the sets, as kid I never really liked them because they didn't fit into my battleplans ;-) (to be fair there only have been princesses back then... maybe a pirate or islander too...).

so my personal verdict: YABU! YABOS! FYAYFSO!

Isn't this a private plane?

She could hire whoever she wants...

Gentleman.... no more woman bashing. Period.

Also, equating someone who is complaining that a set for girls encourages gender stereotypes to a "feminazi <something censored>" will not be tolerated. Consider this an informal warning. We have a lot of female members on BP and they deserve our respect.

The comments in that link are funny, but making fun of females for it is out of line.

Isn't YANBU that guy that is star lords sort of blue dad in guardians of the Galaxy?

Gentleman.... no more woman bashing. Period.

Also, equating someone who is complaining that a set for girls encourages gender stereotypes to a "feminazi <something censored>" will not be tolerated. Consider this an informal warning. We have a lot of female members on BP and they deserve our respect.

The comments in that link are funny, but making fun of females for it is out of line.

​Dude I never made fun of women here! If you want to read it that way go ahead, but I did not!

The word I wrote after feminazi was a rather informell pseudonym for "nonesense"! Thanks to the censoring this looks as if I wrote some misogynistic phrase which I did not.

"I hate this feminazi ****" translates as "I hate this extreme-only-female-focused-approach-nonesense"

That is my opinion and I don't see how I would offend female brickpicker members by stating it. As I put it: I appreciate how LEGO did make a change and put in more and more female characters with very different "positions". So I can totally understand the criticism of too many male characters (at least in past sets) and support the idea of more female characters.

BUT! LEGO is about imagination and about the possibility to swap characters completely, change the appearance of them, and let them do and BE whatever they want. If I decide that my stormtrooper is the hero of my story and not Luke Skywalker I can do so! And if I put a female head on that stormtrooper then suddenly it's a female character. It's as easy as that.

The word feminazi itself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminazi

I use it when talking about extreme/militant form of feminism (not regarding to all kinds of feminism).

 

I don't see anybody here making fun of females and I am not willing to be put into that corner because you are oversensitive when it comes to arguing against this mindset of over-genderalizing (don't know if that even is a word I can use...).

I think it is stupid nonesense that some people start whining everytime there is a man in a leading position in a girls toy instead of a woman.

Also I think it is stupid nonesense if people don't accept woman being heroes in toys for boys...

But most of all: I think it is stupid to stereotype toys and to separate them into Toys for Girls/Boys.

 

If you want to give me a warning for posting my opinion which you identify as anti-female-propaganda... then go and eat icecream!

I feel offended that you put me into that corner!

​Dude I never made fun of women here! If you want to read it that way go ahead, but I did not!

The word I wrote after feminazi was a rather informell pseudonym for "nonesense"! Thanks to the censoring this looks as if I wrote some misogynistic phrase which I did not.

"I hate this feminazi ****" translates as "I hate this extreme-only-female-focused-approach-nonesense"

That is my opinion and I don't see how I would offend female brickpicker members by stating it. As I put it: I appreciate how LEGO did make a change and put in more and more female characters with very different "positions". So I can totally understand the criticism of too many male characters (at least in past sets) and support the idea of more female characters.

BUT! LEGO is about imagination and about the possibility to swap characters completely, change the appearance of them, and let them do and BE whatever they want. If I decide that my stormtrooper is the hero of my story and not Luke Skywalker I can do so! And if I put a female head on that stormtrooper then suddenly it's a female character. It's as easy as that.

The word feminazi itself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminazi

I use it when talking about extreme/militant form of feminism (not regarding to all kinds of feminism).

 

I don't see anybody here making fun of females and I am not willing to be put into that corner because you are oversensitive when it comes to arguing against this mindset of over-genderalizing (don't know if that even is a word I can use...).

I think it is stupid nonesense that some people start whining everytime there is a man in a leading position in a girls toy instead of a woman.

Also I think it is stupid nonesense if people don't accept woman being heroes in toys for boys...

But most of all: I think it is stupid to stereotype toys and to separate them into Toys for Girls/Boys.

 

If you want to give me a warning for posting my opinion which you identify as anti-female-propaganda... then go and eat icecream!

I feel offended that you put me into that corner!

​I appreciate that you've clarified your position and for the most part I agree. LEGO is about creating, people are overly sensitive and toys shouldn't be about boys or girls.

I want to be careful not to turn this political but Rush Limbaugh is an idiot and never used the term feminazi in way that was "nice" so yeah, I think it's use was entirely inappropriate in these forums.

If you think I've backed you into a corner for disparaging females by using the term, quite frankly that's your issue to resolve. What I asked of you and other members was to tread carefully. I've personally spoken to female members on this forum who feel marginalized by the attitudes of some male members on the forums. Yup, there, I said it. Some of you guys act like real asses <not necessarily directed at you>.

So you my friend can go eat your own ice cream, I've got a freezer full. I never called it anti-female propaganda. I asked people not to bash women and to be more respectful. If you can't handle that I think you are being inappropriate in this instance, these forums are not for you. I don't have a problem being that firm with my opinion.

....I have no idea what's going on, and don't forget to bring a towel. 

you are the worst character ever towlie.... but i luv u

....I have no idea what's going on, and don't forget to bring a towel. 

​You should bring a big blanket to a picnic!

I'm on a nowcarb diet right now, so I'll get me a protein-shake instead!

Ice cream: the sad-lady-eating-all-the-ice-cream is kind of a cliche, in retrospective I thought that you might read a more harsh comment into it, so I wanna clarify that as well.

 

I am strongly against bashing or being not respectful when it comes to anyone (includine women!)... So I think we can agree on that one. Be as firm with your opinion as you want to. I'm not the one who pointed a finger at you with an informal warning.

The term feminazi is very controversial because of course word by word it is nonesense. But the word Nazi refers to an ideology which was looking down onto people for being different (in many aspects). It is a very dangerous ideology which I despise. What many extreme feminists are doing is also part of a dangerous mindset, so used in that respect I think the term can be rightfully used.

 

Dear Ladies of the forum! If you ever feel offended by a post I make! Let's talk about it via PM.

In my leisure time I sometimes want to use political incorrect speech. That might offend some folks, but nobody always is political correct.

Having worked in gynaecology department and having been supervisor and coach for several girls fencing teams I'm far from having a misogynistic mindset, but often I just feel overwhelmed by these extremes and I want to give vent to my feelings. (Not always in political correct ways... sorry!) I can life with making fun of men (which seems to be highly popular, e.g.: simpsons) but I can't accept that everytime you voice your opinion against these sometimes dangerously extreme forms of feminization you are easily put into a corner and are labeled as misogynistic.

LEGO is a wonderful toy to me and these often unnecessary gender discussions (always just focussing on female needs) when it comes to nowadays LEGO, which really is getting more and more rich in different characters, just feel so wrong to me and destroy a lot of that "magic" and neutrality of LEGO... that I cannot NOT voice my opinion against them sometimes! When the research institute game out I thought that it was a brilliant thing! Did you see men complaining: hey why isn't there at least one male researcher?! NO... There has never been a male research institute. Even though we have a lot of male characters in LEGO. And that's not a problem, because it's okay to have an only female research institute. If I want to I can take another minifig (a male one) and make it lead scientist (or not).

 

Is there really a problem with putting a male or female minifig in there as pilot: I say NO!

 

 

Edited June 6, 201510 yr by Locutus001

 

Having worked in gynaecology department...

​TMI

Isn't this a private plane?

She could hire whoever she wants...

​You were looking at a different set.  The person was complaining about the Heartlake Airport set

​TMI

​Why? If I'd say Cardiology "no problem!" but gynaecology is too much information? It's just another field of work! But having worked there I know quite some real struggles of women (other than male LEGO minifigure pilotes in friends sets) and believe me you don't work there if you don't respect women. Especially not with your superior and most of the saff being women.

​Why? If I'd say Cardiology "no problem!" but gynaecology is too much information? It's just another field of work! But having worked there I know quite some real struggles of women (other than male LEGO minifigure pilotes in friends sets) and believe me you don't work there if you don't respect women. Especially not with your superior and most of the saff being women.

​I was just joking....

 

LEGO is a wonderful toy to me and these often unnecessary gender discussions (always just focussing on female needs) when it comes to nowadays LEGO, which really is getting more and more rich in different characters, just feel so wrong to me and destroy a lot of that "magic" and neutrality of LEGO... that I cannot NOT voice my opinion against them sometimes! When the research institute game out I thought that it was a brilliant thing! Did you see men complaining: hey why isn't there at least one male researcher?! NO... There has never been a male research institute. Even though we have a lot of male characters in LEGO. And that's not a problem, because it's okay to have an only female research institute. If I want to I can take another minifig (a male one) and make it lead scientist (or not).

 

​Alrighty... full disclosure - my partner is a professor in sociology and has taught courses about gender equality amongst other topics, so my opinion and beliefs have some foundation of their own.

Again, I appreciate the clarification... so I'll move the conversation along as you have.

On the surface I agree with the statement that people are overly complicating the issue, but when you really get into the substance of their complaint, it has some merit. I've talked at length with a number of people about it and it really comes down to something much simpler. Stereotypes.... For many years LEGO sets just furthered gender stereotypes and "feminists" just asked for it to be more random. They never asked for "Friends" sets... they asked for a variety of colours, some that little girls might like more than little boys - not for entire sets based on those other colours.. They asked for female minifigures to be in construction sets or police sets - not sets based entirely on pretty little mini dolls.

The reason they ask for something different is because they just want it to be a part of "normal" and it currently is not. Of course men don't complain about the RI set, we have the Ecto-1, Minecraft, Dr Who, etc... all strong male leads.

Some people just take it way over the top when they complain and they get dismissed as "radical" or "crazy" and that's why I object to the term feminazi. At best it's controversial and at worst it's downright insulting. So let's restart, can you please refrain from using that term? Thanks, I appreciate it and I'll bet others around here will too.