fuzzy_bricks Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 One thing I will never understand about these people: 1) They usually take from people with means.2) It costs a few hundred dollars to outsource saddling someone with 5 figures of hospital bills.3) A person with means has no problem spending a few hundred dollars for a meal, much less a worthy cause.Do you just CL that?I got a mental picture of the guys in Horrible Bosses talking to MoFo Jones trying to set this up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beartrapper Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I saw mention of posting to Facebook as people might recognize him and let you know who he is. Something not mentioned is with Facebook's facial recognition software its quite possible that if the thief has a Facebook account that he will be automatically tagged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryherb Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) Do you have everyblock.com where you live? I would post there as well, I know for where I live, there are a lot of neighbors active on that, whom I would not know on Facebook.no everyblock here....Do not stick fliers "in" the mailbox. that is illegal, but definitely get the word out to the neighborhood.exactly how is warning your neighbors illegal by putting messages in the mailboxes? the mailboxes do not belong to the post office, i believe we all paid out of pocket for ours (around my 'hood) at a home improvement store. Edited May 26, 2015 by jerryherb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c666187 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 no everyblock here....exactly how is warning your neighbors illegal by putting messages in the mailboxes? the mailboxes do not belong to the post office, i believe we all paid out of pocket for ours (around my 'hood) at a home improvement store.If you put anything in a mailbox without postage, you are technically breaking the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryherb Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 If you put anything in a mailbox without postage, you are technically breaking the law. yeah i forgot. usps monopoly on free speech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonysbricks Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) Do you just CL that?God no, unless you want to roll the dice with UCs. If you put anything in a mailbox without postage, you are technically breaking the law. TIL! I googled it to confirm and sure enough, this is a true statement. Edited May 26, 2015 by tonysbricks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c666187 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) yeah i forgot. usps monopoly on free speech This is what the law says: 3.1.3 Use for MailExcept under 3.2.11, Newspaper Receptacle, the receptacles described in 3.1.1 may be used only for matter bearing postage. Other than as permitted by 3.2.10, Delivery of Unstamped Newspapers, or 3.2.11, no part of a mail receptacle may be used to deliver any matter not bearing postage, including items or matter placed upon, supported by, attached to, hung from, or inserted into a mail receptacle. Any mailable matter not bearing postage and found as described above is subject to the same postage as would be paid if it were carried by mail. [D041.1.3] I don't necessarily agree with it, just trying to help out.. https://about.usps.com/news/state-releases/tx/2010/tx_2010_0909.htm Edited May 26, 2015 by c666187 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Not to mention privacy concerns. I wouldn't want people opening up my mailbox and seeing my "Lady Parts Monthly" magazines hanging out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryherb Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) This is what the law says: I don't necessarily agree with it, just trying to help out.. https://about.usps.com/news/state-releases/tx/2010/tx_2010_0909.htmthanks for due diligence. whats a 3.2.10 say?so technically i can call this a "your neigborhood thief weekly" and stuff it in on a sunday? Edited May 26, 2015 by jerryherb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelmelt Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 The police department I work for would not take a report, for a USPS package we would tell you to call the postal inspectors. And from my experience working with them when I've caught people stealing packages they don't really care unless it's high value in a metro area (typical feds). For UPS and Fed ex packages a local police report would be appropriate. As stated social media is great for this, Facebook, Nextdoor.com, etc. plus flyers etc. Post him everywhere. If the local police don't take a report, make your own flyer for information and give it to them anyways (and also send it to the local probation and parole office). If he is stealing packages, he is stealing more stuff too, and probably has been caught before. You might check craigslist for the items. Also ask your delivery person to set the package behind the small walls you have on the porch so it is out of sight from the street. The carrier could not have left it any more conspicuous. Sadly, especially in my state, the bleeding hearts have basically neutered any "non violent" laws and punishment, so as the police we don't have the resources to devote much time and to solving these types of crimes. Theft/scams/economic crimes have been skyrocketing here in the last couple of years. The camera is neat, but if there is no follow up done, it's basically worthless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryherb Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 The police department I work for would not take a report, for a USPS package we would tell you to call the postal inspectors. And from my experience working with them when I've caught people stealing packages they don't really care unless it's high value in a metro area (typical feds). For UPS and Fed ex packages a local police report would be appropriate. As stated social media is great for this, Facebook, Nextdoor.com, etc. plus flyers etc. Post him everywhere. If the local police don't take a report, make your own flyer for information and give it to them anyways (and also send it to the local probation and parole office). If he is stealing packages, he is stealing more stuff too, and probably has been caught before. You might check craigslist for the items. Also ask your delivery person to set the package behind the small walls you have on the porch so it is out of sight from the street. The carrier could not have left it any more conspicuous. Sadly, especially in my state, the bleeding hearts have basically neutered any "non violent" laws and punishment, so as the police we don't have the resources to devote much time and to solving these types of crimes. Theft/scams/economic crimes have been skyrocketing here in the last couple of years. The camera is neat, but if there is no follow up done, it's basically worthless. thats as much as i thought. so poop in the box it is then 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exciter1 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) thats as much as i thought. so poop in the box it is then I'm sure your neighbors would contribute. Invite them to a cookout or go door-to-door with the box. Edited May 26, 2015 by exciter1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy_bricks Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 thats as much as i thought. so poop in the box it is then Make sure to label it "Guaranteed". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryherb Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 posted it on nextdoor.com as well. hopefully its someone's kid and will get an ass-whoopin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryherb Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 next week on "your neigborhood thief weekly" packages! ... mine! ... oh no, poooop! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exciter1 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Those are good pics. I'm sure you can get him identified without issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryherb Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 Those are good pics. I'm sure you can get him identified without issue.i just googled a parole/probation office and there is one within a mile. gonna have to swing by and drop off a few pictures at their main desk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 If all else fails, local TV stations love footage like this too.BTW - if I may ask, what kind of neighborhood do you live in? More urban? Suburban? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscheaf Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Doesn't he know cig smoke affects value? Amateurs...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryherb Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 If all else fails, local TV stations love footage like this too. BTW - if I may ask, what kind of neighborhood do you live in? More urban? Suburban? urban alike north jersey burbs of NYC i left for warmer climates if that tells you anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthiclegos Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I disagree. My understanding of delivered is handing the item to the recipient and or having the item signed for. If no one is home they leave a card and take it back to the depot. Dumping an item on the doorstep, in a bin or up in the tree does not constitute delivered in my eyes and therefore the responsibility of the sender to escalate with their courier. In this case there is video evidence that it's been stolen. You should show this video to the police and let them look into it. As for the merchant who sold you the goods, phone them and explain you have checked your surveillance camera and you can see it was left on your doorstep and stolen. They should take it up with their courier, I would expect them to compensate you. Incorrect. Delivered = item was dropped at address. Unless it was specified and agreed to by both parties that the sign for package service will be used, which you have to pay for, all delivery services will just drop it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legoray01 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 That sucks.TV, face book. cops, probation office.I would report as not delivered though. I believe delivery calls for your acceptance of package and this is why I pay for insurance on my shipments out. As the sender, I believe the package I mine until it is in your hands - not on your front porch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cladner Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 With that haircut, facial features/expression, catlike moves, wide grasping hands and absence of moral fiber, I think that guy has a bright future playing tight end with the patriots. Somebody get that guy an agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonysbricks Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 With that haircut, facial features/expression, catlike moves, wide grasping hands and absence of moral fiber, I think that guy has a bright future playing tight end with the patriots.Or quarterback. Too early? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryherb Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) That sucks.TV, face book. cops, probation office.I would report as not delivered though. I believe delivery calls for your acceptance of package and this is why I pay for insurance on my shipments out. As the sender, I believe the package I mine until it is in your hands - not on your front porch.and that is how ebay and amazon would classify this issue as as well. its time for them to eat it like they would expect us to do Edited May 26, 2015 by jerryherb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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