A topic to discuss about the winter sets since the carnival set is known...

 

First, do you think there will be some more winter sets to come, or is the Winter Village Market (10235) the last one, and some kind of a transition with the new carnival theme set (10244) that has been shown ?

It would explain why LEGO 10235 has been retired so quickly (if you put aside snow and winter, it's about the same "spirit" as the "10244 carnival mixer" with bunch of small stands around a big roundabout)

 

If the Carnival Theme replaces the Winter Village theme, do you think winter sets will drop in value ? (people focusing on the new carnival theme)

 

I think the winter sets have the "Xmas" spirit, and the carnival a "Summer break" one, so WV sets will not drop... on the contrary, value may increase because of the lack of winter theme sets.

 

What's your opinion ?

Nonsense

 

Good argument you got there.... 

Everything here was about "what if" so if you think this thread is stupid please just ignore it, there's no need to be harsh.

 

Mixer attraction has no connection to winter theme (ok, it might look good next to last years carousel, but thats it). As usual, we will get "proper" winter set in october. This year it will be santa's workshop.

Mixer attraction has no connection to winter theme (ok, it might look good next to last years carousel, but thats it). As usual, we will get "proper" winter set in october. This year it will be santa's workshop.

 

I've been out of it a bit - has Santa's Workshop been officially confirmed?

I've been out of it a bit - has Santa's Workshop been officially confirmed?

I think that the name of the set is officially confirmed, but there are no pictures of the set yet.

This whole thread is based on one new set being a threat to an existing theme. Even if a new Carnival theme arrives it can coexist with WW sets. Each have their own merits and will appeal to different collectors.

I believe we'll get the Santa's Workshop set announced around the release of this Carnvial set, as last year the Winter Village Market was shown off in July, and this Carnival set also releases in July. Seems possibly intentional on TLG's part, doesn't it? Well, that would be if we assume that it does get announced in July.

All speculation, but who knows.

But more topic, it's as if we're saying because I buy chunky salsa, spicy salsa prices go down, even though that's a whole other group of people who buys it and supports the market already. Meaning that these two themes attract three different types of people, one who likes Winter, another who likes Carnival, and another who likes both.

I believe we'll get the Santa's Workshop set announced around the release of this Carnvial set, as last year the Winter Village Market was shown off in July, and this Carnival set also releases in July. Seems possibly intentional on TLG's part, doesn't it? Well, that would be if we assume that it does get announced in July.

All speculation, but who knows.

But more topic, it's as if we're saying because I buy chunky salsa, spicy salsa prices go down, even though that's a whole other group of people who buys it and supports the market already. Meaning that these two themes attract three different types of people, one who likes Winter, another who likes Carnival, and another who likes both.

 

 

Exactly about bold thing was my comment and potentially even the theme point....

 

Those who like both, might, because of premium WW is asking, rather go for retail carnival theme, and that way WW theme loses a portion of potential collectors = harder to sell = less CAGR....

 

Its not like this is not the same with any other theme, but the argument still holds.

This year it will be santa's workshop.

Ah, good news if it becomes true.

Guys, don't put the santa's workshop near to the toy shop in your winter village, it would be a paradox.

Ah, good news if it becomes true.

Guys, don't put the santa's workshop near to the toy shop in your winter village, it would be a paradox.

In capitalism everybody has competition. Cheap Chinese toy manufacturers will put him out of business.

 

p. s. I met a Chinese LEGO clone at my nephew's. It was stinky! Man, that plastic had such a horrible stench that I wonder if it is not deleterious. 

It *is* retired in Europe.

 

10235 will be back in stock this fall for Europe. It will be one of the 5 exclusives to retire at the end of this year tho.

Maybe a Himalayan(AKA Caterpillar ride) that plays Deep Purple's "Smoke on the Water."  LOL

Heck yeah.... and look at this face. You know he is soooo baked.

This new carnival set will have zero impact on the Winter Market as they both cater to different customers. Like the modular buildings, the Winter sets have a cult following regardless if the Village Market stinks. Winter theme completists will always want one.

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I hope it is a new theme, but even if it isn't I'm happy with the design of this one, it just sucks that this does not contain Power Functions. Back in the days of the Grand Carousel it retailed for $150, had almost 3000 pieces and ALSO contained Power Functions plus a sound brick!

http://www.brickpicker.com/bpms/set.cfm?set=10196-1

uS retail w $249

In capitalism everybody has competition. Cheap Chinese toy manufacturers will put him out of business.

 

p. s. I met a Chinese LEGO clone at my nephew's. It was stinky! Man, that plastic had such a horrible stench that I wonder if it is not deleterious. 

Chinese Jabba figs are made with dried worms meat for a better realism.

It *is* retired in Europe.

 

It should follow the same trend as previous WV sets:

 

Released in mid-fall.

Removed from the market halfway through winter.

Available again in mid-fall just in time to seize the newer WV set momentum.

Retired halfway through winter.

 

Rinse and repeat.

That's what I meant, thanks.

 

Also, if WV is discontinued (that's my biggest fear ), I wonder if some collectors wouldn't grow tired of winter sets taking dust in boxes (first one released in 2009). I really love these sets but I wonder how many people would like some wind of change, and put those sets on Craig's list, so people would buy the new "seasonal" theme (one set each year) and start a new collection.

All in all, winter sets being less considered as pieces of collection (please don't agress me lol...). People are sometimes so "fickle"...

Winter sets won't lose any value here in the US!

I do not see carnival being a full theme, it just does not have the draw on its own.  maybe a few sets if the first does well, but its more a complement to the town modular/train sets than a stand alone.  

 

as for winter, well I am not sure where they will go with it.  much like modular some of the key set ideas are retired, and that will hurt uptake for new buyers.  The workshop will likely breath a few more years of life into the village, but coming up with new and interesting ideas will be a challenge.