http://www.thebrickfan.com/breaking-lego-star-wars-ucs-sandcrawler-75059-rumors/

 

"There are rumors of a new LEGO Star Wars UCS (Ultimate Collector Series) set that will be released in 2014. Chowren Toys has gotten word that LEGO will be releasing the UCS Sandcrawler (75059) sometime next year and will go for $299.99. The original Sandcrawler (10144) came out in 2005 but there hasn

Has a UCS set ever retired in US before Europe?

22 minutes ago, fossilrock said:

It looks like this one is going to go away, which is good.  

Predictions for August 2017? I'd say it will hover from 400.00 to 450.00 and sits there for a while until half the resellers cave, and sell off their stock, and make 20.00  after fees and the horrendous shipping fees.  "Whoooo this is betta' than gold!"

 

Think Sea Cow without the cratering:

 

6 minutes ago, asharerin said:

Think Sea Cow without the cratering:

 

Maybe.  I'm definitely interested in watching where it goes.  I've always thought if this is around for just about 2 years it has more of a chance to go like the SSD over a few years.  I personally love this set and hope it does well.  I have a few so it would be nice to watch it go that route.  

Although, I think this will be back a few more times and isn't completely gone.  I wouldn't doubt if there's another run on this one yet.  This is always lego's game it seems.  Sell it out by july/august and give the impression it's done, which ramps up people's demand and makes them churn like crazy, then they will make another batch, and leak them out and they will sell out in a week or two.  Last year they did this with so many exclusive sets, it made my head spin.  

I'd suspect we see more in October, and perhaps November before they finally retire it next year.  So, I think there will be more to be stocked up.  I'm not buying that this is completely done, just yet.  I'm actually just waiting for that "Check back in october message"...

I kind of feel a bit foolish now for buying 3 Tie Fighters last month, although I bought them all at a discount, and just reinvested stock from other sets I had sold.  I don't think the TIE is doing an early retirement with the Sandcrawler now doing what seems like a final dance act, although who knows.

Edited August 23, 20169 yr by fossilrock

5 minutes ago, fossilrock said:

I'd suspect we see more in October, and perhaps November before they finally retire it next year.  So, I think there will be more to be stocked up.  I'm not buying that this is completely done, just yet.  

I agree. Lego will want to cash in on the Christmas madness before killing this. Probably few more batches before killing it.

18 minutes ago, Mhd747 said:

Has a UCS set ever retired in US before Europe?

I think SSD went first in the US.

3 minutes ago, tacsniper said:

I agree. Lego will want to cash in on the Christmas madness before killing this. Probably few more batches before killing it.

We thought the same about ToO last year. It went in August/September.

7 minutes ago, Ciglione said:

I think SSD went first in the US.

We thought the same about ToO last year. It went in August/September.

If I recall, wasn't the TOO available up until about December of last year?  I quit investing in that one during the spring of 2015, so I didn't pay too much attention at the end, but I believe in the US it was still trickling in and out of stock at amazon or walmart for quite some time.  

Just now, fossilrock said:

If I recall, wasn't the TOO available up until about December of last year?  I quit investing in that one during the spring of 2015, so I didn't pay too much attention at the end, but I believe in the US it was still trickling in and out of stock at amazon or walmart for quite some time.  

Maybe... but I thought Lego was out after August/September. So production was already halted.

Looks like there is still hope in the LEGO investing/reselling world. Funny how things change so rapidly. The 75159 could have destroyed the LEGO investing world and the 75059 might save it.

No one has bought a sandcrawler at 2x just yet.  

If this set indeed retires now, this could be your next $1000 set. I agree with emazers on this one. I doubt you will see another UCS Sandcrawler for a long time.

Sold Out, is not the same as Retired .....

10 minutes ago, Ed Mack said:

Looks like there is still hope in the LEGO investing/reselling world. Funny how things change so rapidly. The 75159 could have destroyed the LEGO investing world and the 75059 might save it.

Maybe Lego felt guilty and put the axe on the sandcrawler as compensation for their reselling customers?

Maybe Lego felt guilty and put the axe on the sandcrawler as compensation for their reselling customers?

I think the Sandcrawler has been sitting there for months with few takers, being overshadowed by flashier sets. If it does retire now, it will be one of the least hoarded big sets in recent memory.

Just now, Ed Mack said:

I think the Sandcrawler has been sitting there for months with few takers, being overshadowed by flashier sets. If it does retire now, it will be one of the least hoarded big sets in recent memory.

Good!

Did you have a peak at the communities brickfolios to back that statement up?

23 minutes ago, Deanfjr said:

Sold Out, is not the same as Retired .....

but it is very much different than what we typically have seen lately - CHECK BACK SOON or TEMPORARY OUT OF STOCK with Pet Shop, Wall-E, Porsche, etc.

Call to Check -> SOLD OUT under 24hours is at the very least a solid shot across the bow that EOL is eminent.  and there is always the hoped for chance that it is in fact already done.

on brickset, despite it being only 2 years old and available widely, this set has more WANTS than OWNS.  there are over 5000 wants and next year is the 40th annivesary of Episode IV and the iconic scene that this set is based on.    

 

Edited August 24, 20169 yr by cladner

walmart still has it for 299.99

 

4 minutes ago, 33Lego said:

walmart still has it for 299.99

 

Walmart: http://linksynergy.walmart.com/fs-bin/click?id=jfOcdvfTNg4&subid=&offerid=223073.1&type=10&tmpid=1082&RD_PARM1=http://www.walmart.com/ip/LEGO-Star-Wars-Sandcrawler-Play-Set/34976659

Remember one thing, LEGO needs to clear space in the stores for the new 75159, something has to go.

Good!

Did you have a peak at the communities brickfolios to back that statement up?

This set is no 10188.

1 minute ago, Ed Mack said:

This set is no 10188.

agreed.   75059 is better

then again, i'm a jawa fan.

In for 1

I don't think $1000 is realistic.  Perhaps $600 in 2 years.   Not at the same level as the SSD, not even close.  Too many choices now a days.  It would have to reappear in a movie.  Might see a jump in 10144 though.  

1 hour ago, asharerin said:

Think Sea Cow without the cratering:

 

sea cow actually has a better sales ranking as of right now so maybe think sea cow with the cratering

I don't think $1000 is realistic.  Perhaps $600 in 2 years.   Not at the same level as the SSD, not even close.  Too many choices now a days.  It would have to reappear in a movie.  Might see a jump in 10144 though.  

True, it's not the SSD. But I don't think the SSD has hit its peak. This is a $300 UCS set which is not hoarded and probably won't be remade again. Three times MSRP is not unrealistic for a quality set like this, considering the intense interest in STAR WARS collectibles as of late.

57 minutes ago, Ciglione said:

Maybe Lego felt guilty and put the axe on the sandcrawler as compensation for their reselling customers?

Nah.. they are a business, and don't have to operate with any sort of compassion for resellers.

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Regardless, I don't see exclusives as the be-all end-all anymore.  In fact, when you start to just look at it as a dollar for dollar investment, and let the glitter and glitz of the set itself not make an influence, these "blue chips" are not as good as they are cracked up to be.  I know I differer from the "buy 50 of ANY exclusive, and you won't regret it" crowd, but i'm not playing in that band..  

I still think those that took advantage of the walmart clearance event this july (or buy low on amazon, target, TRU etc), that had many decent Star Wars sets on clearance, that dollar for dollar, those sets will more than likely make one more money than buying a sandcrawler around RRP right now through walmart. So, I refuse to get caught up in to the cult of buying, when I think this through.

I know that last year, for every 2 AT-AT's I purchased at a discount around 90.00 (some I got less), they are doing better than every Red 5 that I purchased around RRP.  I dont even want to talk about the death star, which also retired.  Let's toss that one out..

 The mid to large size sets like AT-AT's, ISD's, and Cantinas were the better deal than any exclusive.  Already the AT-AT's can be sold for almost 2.5x what one could have bought in at during those clearance events.  The Red5 is not even at 1.5x.  So, let's say someone bought 10 or more AT-AT's last year around 90.00, and also bought 5 Red 5's.  An almost equal investment in dollar for dollar amount.  Well, already, it might take until next year, before the Red5 might finally hit the 2x mark.  But by then, if that person played the game right, they already cashed out on all the at-ats at 2.5x of the original investment, reinvested it in IST's (or other sets of that size), and cashed out on those at 2.5x too next season when the Red5 finally starts to go around 2x.   In the end, they can turn a 1000.00 investment in 10 AT-AT's into 1500.00 straight profit within a year, and if one reinvests that straight into this year's clearance of IST's (at 49), Kylo's ship (49), FO Transporter (40.00), Resistence Transporter (35), and sells that stock out around 2.5x (which it should be around next year at those buy-in prices), they will be sitting on 3750.00 profit (granted, i'm not counting fees, and shipping into this) within a 2 year cycle.  By then, theyll finally see the red5 at 2x (if we are lucky), and be sitting at 1000.00 profit if they were to blow out all 5 of theirs.  So, in my opinion the sweet spot is no longer exclusives.  It's other sets.  So, last year, if someone strictly bought 2 at-at's to 1 red 5, they would be doing better off. And if they reinvest it wisely the next year, they could hit it again.

While, I don't think the Sandcrawler will have any problem eventually selling at 750,  I think it will take some time to get there.   While I always hear the "buy 50 of these and you won't regret it".  I still think the better bet will be the mid to large size sets that people only occasionally think about, but could be purchased at clearance, or at much cheaper costs.  

I've decided to pass on any more crawlers.  It is a GREAT set.  By far the best freaking star wars build i've done.  But, I think the better bets are other star wars sets that one could have landed at a clearance discount, when I detach myself from the AFOL crazed builder and look at it strictly in terms of investment.



 

Edited August 24, 20169 yr by fossilrock