I have the chance to buy 4195 QUEEN ANNE'S REVENGE for $180 Canadian each (I'm in Canada) which includes taxes and freight. This is from Play value Toys Superstore, a Canadian retailer. I know there was a thread on this a while ago, but I'm looking at this thinking its a wise investment as the value on these are skyrocketing right now. According to Bricklink $180 is roughly it's current market value new, so seems like I'm looking at nothing but profit if the trend continues on this set. Am I crazy not to do this? Please help. Thanks!

please look at the "Queen Anne 4195 and Hogwart

please look at the "Queen Anne 4195 and Hogwart

I've just started to get into Lego again.

Now I'm looking at 4195 Queen Anne's Revenge from POTC.

Someone is selling it, but it's built and without the box. Would it be worth buying, if so how much is it worth? (without the box and I can't be completely sure all pieces are there)

 

I've just started to get into Lego again.

Now I'm looking at 4195 Queen Anne's Revenge from POTC.

Someone is selling it, but it's built and without the box. Would it be worth buying, if so how much is it worth? (without the box and I can't be completely sure all pieces are there)

Welcome to Brickpicker! If you would like to know the value of a set, you can type in the set number in the box in the top left corner of the screen where it says search Lego price guide. Here is a link for the QAR.

Thank you!

I already knew that. But I believe the used value is with box, or am I wrong?

I was just wondering if the set is worth less without the box, and if it's worth much less?

Welcome to the site, Rags!

 

I think you should ask yourself the question: do I want this set as an investment or to build it/display it.

 

If you're looking to invest, probably one that is still saled in box is the better option. They tend  to rise in value longer and further than used. They currently go for about

Thank you!

I already knew that. But I believe the used value is with box, or am I wrong?

I was just wondering if the set is worth less without the box, and if it's worth much less?

Sometimes the set is worth less without the box and sometimes it is not. It all depends on the set. A set like the QAR, would probably be worth 5-10% less than what the current Brickpicker value is.

Ok thank you both!

For very rare sets (Taj Mahal, Market Street), a listing with the box can bring in a little more, but for the vast majority of sets (including in QAR in my opinion), you aren't leaving any money on the table without a box. If it's missing instructions or minifigs, that would significantly decrease the price you can get for the set used.

Interesting. I haven't been keeping close tabs on the QAR, but it looks like the Pearl's price is catching up quickly.

 

BP is trending upward nicely. I wish I had picked up more last Black Friday for $75.

what do people think about future growth of this and black pearl? it really seems to have plateaued. I was hoping for 300.00 by now.

what do people think about future growth of this and black pearl? it really seems to have plateaued. I was hoping for 300.00 by now.

 

I bought both awhile back (for about $85 each) before I became an investor.  I built the Queen Anne with my 3-year old (at the time) and had forgotten about the Black Pearl.  Needless to say, I was looking up Lego on the Internet when I found out how much both had appreciated, even used.  That got me thinking and on my path to investing... BTW, the Queen Anne is an amazing build!  And I sold the Black Pearl for about $225 a couple of weeks ago... No room for another ship... 

I'm not much into building. I'm 95 percent in this to make money five percent for an occasional Christmas time build. I was looking at imperial ship and wondering if these ships will reach thst level or if I should just sell now and use money for other investments.

Just recently built the QAR and it is a fantastic set.  There is a reason why the used price for this set is so high.  It makes a great display set.

 

As far as not having a box, I doubt it really has any affect on the price.

I think the QAR is an impressive display piece, so really depending on if you are investing or keeping it for yourself. A lot of AFOLS who are not investing only want it for the ship and don't care about the minifigs or the box.

im thinking of selling soon. We are approaching the 2 year since retirement and research has shown that is when most sets plateau.

Combine that with the fact there are many of these stockpiled.

I don't see either of these sets growing much more.

thoughts?

I think there is a lot more growth to come for both ships since there will be another POTC movie in 2016  I could see a big bump upward in the value in 2016 once the movie comes out..

Or we will just get a remake of the two ships....

I think there is a lot more growth to come for both ships since there will be another POTC movie in 2016  I could see a big bump upward in the value in 2016 once the movie comes out..

 

 

Or we will just get a remake of the two ships....

 

HUGE risk reward gamble. HUGE.

I've sold all of mine.  You can always sell a few and keep a few a little longer.

I had a QAR with no box, no minifigures, some missing pieces, and a huge amount of pieces that were subbed for different styles/colours, and it still made nearly

I sold 2 sets of BP and QAR a year ago and got great return on them. I still have 3 sets of each left. Just waiting for the opportune time to sell. Even if they do another movie, i doubt they will release the Pearl over again. They don't do re-releases unless there is a way to upgrade it and i don't see how they could add any more to the current one. QAR was in the one movie and done. You won't see it again. I wish they had done the Flying Dutchman as well. 

The issue with me is I only have 2 BP that in payed 70.00 for and a qa that I payed 115.00 for. On the high side someone recently got 550 for the pair on ebay. I'd be happy with that. I just had an hour long talk with Emazers and this was discussed. Is it unrealistic to think when the new movie huts thst lego won't see the popularity in these and simply remake in ucs form...

Even if they were to do a UCS version, i doubt it would affect sales of the existing one. A UCS version would probably cost more than what you'd pay secondary for the current one. Plus you probably wouldn't get any figures with it. While i would go and buy one myself, i wouldn't get rid of my current one. The two sets i sold last year i got $450 per set. I have no doubts that they will go for $550-600 easy come Christmas time. If you;re ready to sell and would be happy getting what it's going for now, then i would say go for it. I will probably sell off two sets at Christmas and hold one set a little longer to see what happens. If you sold just a BP for current price, which seems to be around $225-250, you'd come away with at minimum double your investment. Now bad in my opinion. I think if you held on until Christmas you'd do a bit better though. I have found that they seem to sell better as a set though too. 

HUGE risk reward gamble. HUGE.

 

The last POTC movie has been on TMN a lot lately so I've been watching it in bits and pieces.  Based on the ending (and common sense) the Pearl is going to be central to the next film.  I don't know that the QAR is going to be central to the plot - my gut says no.  If I were a betting man, I'd bet the Pearl gets a remake/update with minifigs that are new to the film or remade, and it anchors the POTC line.  I'm planning to let my last BPs go this upcoming holiday season.  But, like DNIIM said, plenty of people will offload before the new film and if the BP gets UCS treatment the original will likely continue to increase in value.  Classic risk/reward scenario.