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Retiring Soon - open speculation

To continue an earlier thread, here are the sets listed on S@H as "Retiring Soon":

 

Friends - Stephanie's Cool Convertible, Olivia's Speedboat, Mia's Bedroom, Series 1 foil packs

Duplo - Train Starter Set, Doctor's Clinic, Emergency Helicopter

Creator - Apple Tree House

Lego Games - Ninjago, Pirate Plank

Chima Speedorz - CHI Battles, Ring of Fire, Target Practice, CHI Waterfall

Technic - Mini Container Truck

LOTR - Gandalf Arrives, Orc Forge

CMF - Series 9

Architecture - Sugnyemun

Marvel Super Heroes - Captain America's Avenging Cycle

Star Wars - Endor Rebel Trooper and Imperial Trooper Battle Pack, Planet Bespin & Twin Cloud Car, Planet Endor & AT-ST

 

Nothing earth-shattering.  Orc Forge surprises me the most.

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anyone think LM2 sets going to retire?

1 hour ago, joneyyy1981 said:

anyone think LM2 sets going to retire?

its been discussed earlier in this thread...basically yes, all of them by end of this year is the thinking

The consensus seems to be that it's a poor series; but there may be a couple gold nuggets. 

For example? 

For example? 

With the right buy in, 70841 Benny’s Space Squad could be good. But I also have a feeling lots of sellers will purchasing these for resale so that could be an issue.


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For example? 
Do some research....frequency of sold listings on ebay...if amazon..sales rank...how many sellers on the platforms. Personally, I think the market will be flooded with LM2 sets for a while.

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21 minutes ago, glucapg said:

For example? 

 (here's me trying to so off my Newb BP knowledge):

the obvious one is Apocalapseburg: truly unique and creative...would stand on its own merit without the Movie, IMO (Very Planet of teh Apes and a center piece for Zonbie themes).

It's a great investment because of the minifigs...there boast a eclectic mix of unique DC characters...the star is the EVER popular Harley quin (She has a cool movie coming up but she doesn't need one as she's one of the most popular characters..probably amongst Adult male 35-50 lol...which overlaps well w/ AfoL demographics btw))

The negative is that its a big set with all the known issues of large box...but being a prime piece out candidate also helps mitigate...the Minfigs alone were fethcing 65% of the set price ion ebay in past months....the HQ mf is like a $50 bill)

The current sale price of $219 is attractive and I was tempted, but I think come black friday we may see a full 30-35% off...no way a set like this hits 50%...they will all get hoarded at 30% off.

 

I think the sleeper is Rexselsior...I really don't see many of these around...and held a solid $100 for its life on ebay...I could see kids a year form now wanting it because I think it's a real hit for the target boy LEGO age...and parents willing to fork over the 2x readily for it.

 

Even with the whole theme 50% off, only one tlm2 set managed to make amazon top 100.  Emmett house #92 meh Why waste ur money investing in TLM2 theme when It sells poorly now.  Doesn’t bode well.  And 75% off  is just around the corner and then ur into a long hold at 50% bye bye Cagr

just my two cents.  Maybe I’ll be wrong but I doubt it.  So many easier tried and true investment choices but to each their own.  

9 minutes ago, cladner said:

Even with the whole theme 50% off, only one tlm2 set managed to make amazon top 100.  Emmett house #92 meh Why waste ur money investing in TLM2 theme when It sells poorly now.  Doesn’t bode well.  And 75% off  is just around the corner and then ur into a long hold at 50% bye bye Cagr

just my two cents.  Maybe I’ll be wrong but I doubt it.  So many easier tried and true investment choices but to each their own.  

People are just looking for the next double decker couch.

16 minutes ago, Val-E said:

People are just looking for the next double decker couch.

i think we will see a clearance blow out on these in the 75% off range. 

some of the TLM sets have done alright - metal beard duel but it took a long time to get there.

then there's 70809

meanwhile $19.99 permasale 10736 has tripled in price in under a year.  that's the kind of return action i look for.

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I think there will be a couple of sets that will do well - there are some pretty short runs after all, but the success to turd rate is not going to be good. Normal, considering the movie did not do as well as expected.

12 hours ago, cladner said:

Even with the whole theme 50% off, only one tlm2 set managed to make amazon top 100.  Emmett house #92 meh Why waste ur money investing in TLM2 theme when It sells poorly now.  Doesn’t bode well.  And 75% off  is just around the corner and then ur into a long hold at 50% bye bye Cagr

just my two cents.  Maybe I’ll be wrong but I doubt it.  So many easier tried and true investment choices but to each their own.  

i actually think the dream house will do ok.

15 hours ago, $20 on joe vs dan said:

I think the sleeper is Rexselsior...I really don't see many of these around...and held a solid $100 for its life on ebay...I could see kids a year form now wanting it because I think it's a real hit for the target boy LEGO age...and parents willing to fork over the 2x readily for it.

One man's opinion......probably wrong

I hadn't seen this set on a store shelf until yesterday (I hadn't really looked at stuff for months). I was intrigued by the size of the box and set, but as I looked at the box "art" and looked at the ship, there wasn't one thing that made me want to buy this. Drab, boring, awful ship design, etc. Many times, I see a box, and it triggers the desire to buy. This box triggered my desire to not even bother looking at the back.

For piece count/price, the set will still be a mild winner, one day, at 50%.

I like the party bus (70828). It's got a sleek and creative design, and I think it would appeal to kids who like the Friends theme--especially along the lines of the pop-star stuff. Of course, that's not based on any real data, as my Target is sitting on these 7 deep and it can't even crack the top 100 in building toy sales on Amazon even at its current 50%-off price. 

2 hours ago, BillyBricks said:

I like the party bus (70828). It's got a sleek and creative design, and I think it would appeal to kids who like the Friends theme--especially along the lines of the pop-star stuff. Of course, that's not based on any real data, as my Target is sitting on these 7 deep and it can't even crack the top 100 in building toy sales on Amazon even at its current 50%-off price. 

i like 70838. batman figure alone is doing well. @£50 dont see how you can lose

I'm afraid that Saturn V will come back in Creator catagory right after retire...

3 minutes ago, freakchem said:

I'm afraid that Saturn V will come back in Creator catagory right after retire...

Why would they do that?

10 minutes ago, Val-E said:

Why would they do that?

Good seller? Saturn is a money printing machine.

17 minutes ago, freakchem said:

I'm afraid that Saturn V will come back in Creator catagory right after retire...

Let's say this did happen: what would the agreement have to be with the creators of the IDEAs submission? Do they still get a cut of sales since it is the same product? I have to imagine that, once it retires, it's done. 

Any ideas on 75955 Hogwarts Express? Woot just had it on sale for $49.99, the lowest price I've ever seen. 

7 minutes ago, elmaslıefendi said:

Good seller? Saturn is a money printing machine.

Then why retire it in the first place?

5 minutes ago, freakchem said:

Any ideas on 75955 Hogwarts Express? Woot just had it on sale for $49.99, the lowest price I've ever seen. 

It'll be gone in 2 months ;)

8 minutes ago, BillyBricks said:

Let's say this did happen: what would the agreement have to be with the creators of the IDEAs submission? Do they still get a cut of sales since it is the same product? I have to imagine that, once it retires, it's done. 

LEGO is ruthless. I can imagine them retiring it, reissuing it as a Creator Set + 1 piece and pricing it at 150-180. 

9 minutes ago, Val-E said:

Then why retire it in the first place?

There has to be a reason, we'll probably never know... 

I think LEGO realized they underpriced the damn thing.

47 minutes ago, Val-E said:

Then why retire it in the first place?

See immediate UCS Death Star reissue following UCS Death Star retirement.

5 hours ago, sbull97 said:

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Were there also other sets tagged as "retiring soon", for example Ywing UCS?

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