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Ideas #020: 21313/92177 - Ship In a Bottle

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1 minute ago, John82 said:

Looking at the price I would say Lego doesn't want many sales. Shame as i wanted this, would look great after several modifications to the ship.

Same price as Maze but you get a lot of 1x1 tiles in the part count.

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6 minutes ago, Val-E said:

Same price as Maze but you get a lot of 1x1 tiles in the part count.

That applied to Maze too.

3 minutes ago, inversion said:

That applied to Maze too.

Did it? Maze has no 1x1 tiles or cheese slopes IIRC. 200 pieces less but bigger pieces for the money.

26 minutes ago, Val-E said:

The ship is a POS. Looks like something you would get in a Xmas 24 in 1 or a polybag. Look forward to seeing what Lego tax is applied to us too considering they raised S5 10 euros today already. I guess 85 euros should do it. Actually no lego tax, which is nice. 70 euros.

I put this set in the Maze category -low demand can be equalled by short production life.

Lucky you. No Lego tax for Spain, but €5 Lego tax for The Netherlands ... :(  Dutch price: €74,99...

And Saturn V has been €129,99 from the very beginning in The Netherlands. 

3 minutes ago, Haay said:

Lucky you. No Lego tax for Spain, but €5 Lego tax for The Netherlands ... :(  Dutch price: €74,99...

And Saturn V has been €129,99 from the very beginning in The Netherlands. 

We still have the world record for abuse with 185 euros for Destiny´s Bounty. And they wonder why they don´t sell much Ninjago in Spain.

Just now, Val-E said:

We still have the world record for abuse with 185 euros for Destiny´s Bounty. And they wonder why they don´t sell much Ninjago in Spain.

Well, if you get DB for cheap from Amazon UK it's just that much easier for you to resell them with a profit to your less knowledgeable countrymen. ;) 

8 minutes ago, Haay said:

Well, if you get DB for cheap from Amazon UK it's just that much easier for you to resell them with a profit to your less knowledgeable countrymen. ;) 

Problem is it´s still Ninjago and that theme is only marginally higher up the foodchain than Angry Birds and Lone Ranger here.

9 minutes ago, Val-E said:

Problem is it´s still Ninjago and that theme is only marginally higher up the foodchain than Angry Birds and Lone Ranger here.

That DB is an amazing ship unlike that disgusting monstrosity, the Sea Cow. You forgot the mention the worst theme to date... The LEGO Movie ;-)

It's OK to call the DB "Junk" because it is one.

I actually prefer this set to DB - it has CEO desk display potential and a sensible price point - in Europe. Uk price seems high.

9 minutes ago, Val-E said:

I actually prefer this set to DB - it has CEO desk display potential and a sensible price point - in Europe. Uk price seems high.

Desk display potential is key here. I think the original would just have been too large for what it "is" and Lego probably couldn't meet the price point they wanted. Unfortunate they had to scale it down, but I don't see that if it was any larger that the demand would have been that uch greater for the extra $$ it would cost on both ends.

Edit: I would be interested to see if the mini 6285 from the 60th set fits in this bottle.

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2 hours ago, Val-E said:

I actually prefer this set to DB - it has CEO desk display potential and a sensible price point - in Europe. Uk price seems high.

Brexit tax, get used to it.

 

P.S Guessing game about the box measurements?

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37 minutes ago, Shewie said:

Brexit tax, get used to it.

P.S Guessing game about the box measurements?

Hopefully it'll fit within a 45x35x16cm box to post as a small parcel. 

I'll take a stab at 38x26x7cm, same as C7.

£69.99 is a lot, but we'll see it with either a good promo or 3-for-2 soon enough.

1 hour ago, Shewie said:

Brexit tax, get used to it.

 

P.S Guessing game about the box measurements?

Same as Maze and Caterham.

5 hours ago, Val-E said:

We still have the world record for abuse with 185 euros for Destiny´s Bounty. And they wonder why they don´t sell much Ninjago in Spain.

liar, our DB is 195€ ...

1 minute ago, kumas said:

liar, our DB is 195€ ...

That's insane! There's no justification for such a regional price differential. It's nearly double the UK

20 minutes ago, kumas said:

liar, our DB is 195€ ...

Your price is in local currency though, not Euros.

8 hours ago, Val-E said:

The ship is a POS. Looks like something you would get in a Xmas 24 in 1 or a polybag. Look forward to seeing what Lego tax is applied to us too considering they raised S5 10 euros today already. I guess 85 euros should do it. Actually no lego tax, which is nice. 70 euros.

I put this set in the Maze category -low demand can be equalled by short production life.

I would venture a guess that you're absolutely wrong about this set.

5 minutes ago, Migration said:

I would venture a guess that you're absolutely wrong about this set.

Yeah, I probably am and it will be another Ecto or Yellow Submarine clogging up people´s lofts for years to come!

10 minutes ago, Val-E said:

Yeah, I probably am and it will be another Ecto or Yellow Submarine clogging up people´s lofts for years to come!

Yellow sub can be sold at a profit NOW. Ecto had the special fun of an extra production run and the Amazon listing was jacked for over  month before Christmas

Edited by Migration

I´ll stick with Maze residuals any day though, wouldn´t you. Ship in the bottle doesn´t have the same crossover appeal those licensed sets did and with a 10 month lifecycle it could do just fine.

This set is such a disappointment that it will be produced in limited quantities, will have a short run and reach 2xRRP within a year of EOL, a no-brainer buy.

On 10.1.2018 at 9:16 PM, Val-E said:

Same as Maze and Caterham.

Is this official meanwhile? On the product pages Caterham's box and the ship's one do in fact look pretty much like being the same model.

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