So the past few days have been exciting since LEGO finally slapped a "Retiring Soon" label on the list for the 10188 Death Star.  Everyone should jump for joy and start yelling for the money to come rolling in right?  Maybe, but it might be short lived or will it.  According to the new database entry at Brickset, there is a new Death Star coming and it is listing as an Ultimate Collector Series model.

So is this a totally new model, or another version of the old?  Is it really "The Death Star" or "The Starkiller"? The new Starkiller base as it is referred to in Episode VII is described by the official Star Wars site as "An ice planet converted into a stronghold of the First Order and armed with a fiercely destructive new weapon capable of destroying entire star systems."  Obviously this will be much different than what we have known for the last 40 years.  Will this set be more of a model like the #10143 Death Star II, or a play set like the #10188 Death Star.  Is this set going to be about the new movie or yet another rehash of the old. There are no details on piece count, minifigures or release date.

Before you get all upset and get the feeling to dump all your 10188 Death Stars, you will have to wait and see what this model actually is.  I would be surprised as anything to see them do another version of the original and honestly that would be pretty dumb if you ask me.  If it is the new Starkiller version, it will be vastly different than the prior two models which to me will not effect the value of them and possibly even drive the values upwards.

I am really excited to see what it might be. Regardless if it is a new version or old, I am hoping for a 5,000+ piece set!!!

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6 minutes ago, dcdfan said:

Absolutely. Agree 100%. Now it's looking like a great investment again for sure...

Although, with Rogue One on the way, I would suspect, there will be another Death Star in the future sometime.  No way, will this be the only Death Star made.  Star Killer Base from what I understand is nothing like the Death Star in the OT.

On 12/14/2015 at 8:05 AM, MindCrime2411 said:

From a very reliable source, it will be StarKiller and around 4000 pcs.

I'm calling BS. No way Disney and Lego will make their flagship set the Starkiller this early on. These are two rather conservative companies that enjoy making money.

17 minutes ago, fossilrock said:

Although, with Rogue One on the way, I would suspect, there will be another Death Star in the future sometime.  No way, will this be the only Death Star made.  Star Killer Base from what I understand is nothing like the Death Star in the OT.

I agree there will be another. I just think it'll be much smaller or much different at the very least. There was a point where I was having second thoughts on 10188 being a good investment but lately I've been having very good feelings about it. But you know what they say opinions are like..

Edited December 15, 201510 yr by dcdfan

On 12/14/2015 at 11:05 AM, MindCrime2411 said:

From a very reliable source, it will be StarKiller and around 4000 pcs.

No offense, but from a member who has 1 post?

 

9 minutes ago, dcdfan said:

I agree there will be another. I just think it'll be much smaller or much different at the very least. There was a point where I was having second thoughts on 10188 being a good investment but lately I've been having very good feelings about it. But you know what they say opinions are like..

Yeah, i've changed my tune on this too.  In july, I just had a gut feeling that the end of that set wasn't at that time, and things didn't feel right.  I remember reading the "rumor" saying it would be retired by the end of this year, and a newer "bigger badder" version would be out next year. 

However, one thing that I found a bit odd is that there is no signs of a ewok village style set for EP7.  That makes no sense, so one would suspect something would be out soon.

So... i'm wondering if maybe the "hoth rebel base" set that is rumored is actually Starkiller Base.  Even Ed Mack commented about this earlier before that it seemed silly to release a Hoth Base, and that would make some sense. And maybe the Death Star is for Rogue One. 

Or maybe we see a Star Killer Base (which is embedded in a planet), and a Hoth Rebel Base.... ohh now it's confusing.   Regardless,  I do think the OT Death Star is not being remodified, and will be safe as an investment.

 

15 minutes ago, legone3 said:

No offense, but from a member who has 1 post?

 

None taken. Just because one doesn't post often (or ever) doesn't take away from said post, in my opinion. Maybe I'm trying to justify the amount of 10188s I've amassed as I have definitely not felt good about them for awhile now. But I would not be caught without one now. Just my opinion. I've posted a couple thousand times but I don't feel my post has any more importance than anyone else...

Edited December 15, 201510 yr by dcdfan

At some point you have to wonder when the new UCS sets will be based on the new movies.  Maybe the new Snowspeeder is a version from the new movie.  Maybe Hoth Echo base is the Starkiller base.  Maybe the new Death Star isn't even round.  LOL

11 minutes ago, Ed Mack said:

At some point you have to wonder when the new UCS sets will be based on the new movies.  Maybe the new Snowspeeder is a version from the new movie.  Maybe Hoth Echo base is the Starkiller base.  Maybe the new Death Star isn't even round.  LOL

Stop teasing and give us some insider info, Ed, please.

Edited December 15, 201510 yr by allen9917

Maybe Luke is really Leia and BB-8 is really R2-D2...whooaa

On 14-12-2015 at 5:05 PM, MindCrime2411 said:

From a very reliable source, it will be StarKiller and around 4000 pcs.

Wouldn't that be something.

I would think if the star killer base is staple in the next few movies, it would make sense to make a UCS set of it.  The prequels, in essence, bombed.  I bet several new UCS sets come for the new movies...  hope they don't bomb

Edited December 15, 201510 yr by conceptmachine

6 hours ago, dcdfan said:

None taken. Just because one doesn't post often (or ever) doesn't take away from said post, in my opinion. Maybe I'm trying to justify the amount of 10188s I've amassed as I have definitely not felt good about them for awhile now. But I would not be caught without one now. Just my opinion. I've posted a couple thousand times but I don't feel my post has any more importance than anyone else...

That was not my point. I'm relatively new and have few posts myself.

But when someone's first and only post is about a rumor about something important like this, it's normal for people to question.

Remember Davem111 and his "leak" about Palace Cinema?

7 hours ago, legone3 said:

No offense, but from a member who has 1 post?

 

They did say that it was from a very reliable source and "very" was underlined so I'm not sure what you would find incredible about that statement.

Seriously though, I would find that speculation much more credible than what everyone seems to assume is going to happen (i.e., TLG will retire 10188 after 7-8 years on the market and then reintroduce the exact same set with a few tweaks next year).

He also mentioned 4000 pieces. Has anyone else mentioned a piece count...? We already heard "bigger" and for me that fits the bill. Could it be a load of nonsense? Absolutely. But I'll take the chance...

Starkiller Base makes logical sense to me.

If Just2Good says it, it's probably true. Just sayin'...

On December 12, 2015 at 11:20 PM, zak001 said:

The trench run is sweet. It's like a valley of greebling.

Believe it or not......my last name is ......Griebling.....pronounced the same way.  When I read the post a few months ago about "greebling" I almost shat my pants.  Told my wife our Lego collecting was a sign from above.  Too funny.

On ‎12‎/‎12‎/‎2015 at 10:09 PM, Alpinemaps said:

Interesting idea.  Here's what they deployed at Legoland California earlier this year, that's similar to what you describe:

There are also micro scenes like this:

There is also a trench run diorama:

I WANT IT!  Completely AWESOME!

 

My gut feeling...

I'm feeling better about my 10188s as it appears the replacement is going to be  Starkiller Base and not a direct refresh.  I bet Lego wants to capitalize more on the TFA than the OT or Rogue One in 2016.

I am excited to hear its finally retiring! I bought one a couple months ago and at one point wondered if I should return it. I saw a couple weeks ago when it had the "Retiring Soon" label on it but then it disappeared. Is that becuase it is retired now? I am a new investor so I don't know a whole lot. I just picked up on it this year  (my two biggies being the death Star and the Red X-Wing UCS).

On 15/12/2015 at 8:41 PM, pete411 said:

I'm calling BS. No way Disney and Lego will make their flagship set the Starkiller this early on. These are two rather conservative companies that enjoy making money.

After watching the movie, for me it's logical to release the star killer as a UCS this summer/autumn, because

Spoiler

it explodes at this end of the movie and will obviously not appear ever again in the sequels

This new UCS can have a 2 years life, everything seems logical to me, it's a good timing to release such a UCS:

- after SW VII (no spoiler)

- about the same time of the DVD/BR of the movie (good timing, hype)

- and (if Lego give it a classical 2 years life) retiring about few months after the SW VIII frenzy (because interest will have lowered for this set and movie, and people will look after SW VIII).

Edited January 16, 201610 yr by biniou