There is a rumored UCS Hoth Echo Base possibly being released in October 2015:  http://www.groovebricks.com/lego-star-wars-ucs-hoth-echo-base-coming-2015/

 

I'm having trouble imagining exactly what this would look like for it to have the features of the base but also fit into the mold of UCS sets being very 'complete' models. In other words, is a sprawling playset really suitable for this type of set?

 

I also wonder if this will be the nail in the coffin for the Death Star.

Looks like the 10249 design team strikes again. Well done Lego!

"Must buy set"? WHY? Not usually one for complaining about sets but this looks like a "UCS" set that I could make out of the spare bricks on my kid's floor.

You can see again exactly the same LOGO on the box like for the Sandcrawler:

Star Wars Ultimate Collector Series - not only Ultimate Collector Series.

It looks like these sets come without the UCS sticker and are just big Star Wars playsets. 

Edited February 12, 20169 yr by mauro23

This is a joke, right?

Why would I want to pay $250 for this?  I already have these sets.

Why would they include the min-scale aerial view of the Rebel Base?

Why would they rip off this design?

 

7 hours ago, mattyman said:

This is what you need guys!

<<removed pic>>

 

Indeed a Hoth Jokerland - good bye, investment case.

Those two snowtroopers are in big trouble on May 1st...

3 minutes ago, rfish said:

 

Indeed a Hoth Jokerland - good bye, investment case.

It's not even that, Jokerland has a nice selection of unique figs. This has Toryn Farr.  

This reminds me a lot of the new 60's Batcave. A bunch of freestanding, disparate pieces that have a few cool ideas but when stood on a shelf would look kind of dumb.

I have the old Echo Base set and the new small Hoth set too, not to mention a Snowspeeder, so what exactly is in this set that would make anyone want it? Very little, unless you had somehow never acquired any Hoth Lego before and wanted this rather boring thing cluttering up your life.

Might go and buy another Ewok Village as that set destroys this one in every aspect.

1 minute ago, feed said:

It's not even that, Jokerland has a nice selection of unique figs. This has Toryn Farr.  

Yeah, this might be the first SW UCS set you can lose invested money with...

Hodgepodge...

9 hours ago, mattyman said:

This is what you need guys!

How did the rebels loose the Hoth base again?  They outnumbered the Imperial Army 7 to 2 !!!

"Sound the alarms, the base is being assaulted!"

"By how many?!"

"Two!"

"Two AT-ATs?!"

"No, two guys."

"Oh."

I really want to know how TLG is defining UCS. Forget investment aspect for a minute, as a builder and a big fan , this is a disgrace to the subtheme if the pic is in fact accurate . 

I want one for my personal collection as I sold off all of the previous Hoth sets with the exception of the recent AT-AT and Snowspeeder.  What I don't get is why this is priced at $250 for only 2,144 pieces, especially when you consider that there is so much reuse here.  The bad part is that it's an exclusive so discounts will be almost non-existent here in the U.S.  If it was a retail set, it would be easy to score for 20-30% off which makes it more reasonable.

3 minutes ago, Bold-Arrow said:

I really want to know how TLG is defining UCS. Forget investment aspect for a minute, as a builder and a big fan , this is a disgrace to the subtheme if the pic is in fact accurate . 

I have answered this question already few days ago - when you ask them, they send you a link to BrickSet UCS list. So even they don't know it...

Edited February 12, 20169 yr by mauro23

4 minutes ago, Bold-Arrow said:

I really want to know how TLG is defining UCS. Forget investment aspect for a minute, as a builder and a big fan , this is a disgrace to the subtheme if the pic is in fact accurate . 

It comes with all three new " shooters" ..

• the new six-stud shooter
• a flick fire
• the single-stud pistol shooter

LOTS of play value there.

** Edit.. no helicopter though. Is the snowspeeder the new Star Wars helicopter? **

Edited February 12, 20169 yr by gregpj

The UCS tag has become a marketing tactic and as such they don't have to be very consistent with how they utilize it.  At this point it seems to best be defined as a large LEGO exclusive set, nothing more.

What the heck is this set? It has way too many small pieces and does not look like it will be good for a display set. EV is much prettier.

29 minutes ago, rfish said:

Indeed a Hoth Jokerland - good bye, investment case.

Pls don't insult jokerland. It is a much better set with lots of play features at a significantly lower price.

I think for $250 it is a decent set. A play set, certainly not an UCS. Lots of good figs, 2 big figs. Easy to incorporate existing Hoth sets, especially the new one recently released. Good starter for a Hoth theme. 

Just for a moment, forget please that you already own some Hoth sets. Hoth is an integral part of the OT, and LEGO can't allow itself not to release sets just because they already had years ago. Imagine you are new to LEGO SW, and want a good play set with an iconic scene. This more than qualifies. 

So I like this set for what it is. Not UCS and not a display set in itself. However a good start for a displayable Hoth scene. You are focusing too much on the UCS label which is nothing more than a marketing gimmick. I did not expect anything more, since what would qualify as true UCS would at least have 5000 bricks and I don't see a Hoth scene commercially viable at that price point.

In this we get the important parts, figs and some nice builds, the rest is upon us to develop a big scene if we want to. Basically the rest is only standard white and gray bricks to build the cave and building structures, but a lot of them. We also need sets like this. Hope next is Cloud City.

This one deserves the Gold Seal of shame.

But at least someone needed to design the ball (Ion Cannon) - actually, I think that was a previous Christmas decoration.

9 hours ago, mattyman said:

9 hours ago, Mos_Eisley said:

"Sound the alarms, the base is being assaulted!"

"By how many?!"

"Two!"

"Two AT-ATs?!"

"No, two guys."

"Oh."

This is what you need guys!

 

I bet that extra $100 you need to spend to get a Ghostbusters HQ isn't looking that bad after all.

I already have gift cards with GBHQ written on them waiting for the next 2x VIP.

This is a Joke Land, "r" is superfluous.

Seriously though, TLG recently advertized a vacancy for Senior Marketing Manager for SW, I wonder if the vacancy got "liberated" because the old one came up with this little "treasure"...

Let me help you here TLG (considering that if I ever applied to that position my CV wouldn't pass IT filters, astrophysics and space engineering, no marketing...):

When you market a set of 250 whatever, you target AFOLs. Adult fan of Lego for the new hire. Yes, those guys that have bought almost every single Hoth set that you put out in last 10 years and that can compose 80% of this "Challenge for the most experienced builders" from what they have on the shelves and in the attic. A tiny winy fraction is going to be bought by super-rich parents wanting to please their kids, but that's NOT your main audience for the sets at this price point. You following me? Good. Who's your second biggest category of buyers for sets like this? That's right, investors. Only, the hiccup here is that the latter are following the fancies of the first target audience for sets of this kind. If you follow my reasoning, you'll get to the point (of enlightenment...)  where your two main target groups won't touch this set with a 12-foot pole. </rant> or </job onboarding help>

I am taking bets now, who's with me that this set will challenge no-discount rule in the US and that this will be the shortest production run in recent history of SW theme?

Edited February 12, 20169 yr by Vinetu