Makes sense. It explains why prices are so high on amazon. On bricklink/owl the prices are high just because everyone there knows what they have.

1 hour ago, Phil B said:

Just updated my formulas to calculate the net fees I paid over the last 4 years on various platforms and am a bit shocked to see the numbers:

This is including Shipping Fees and Platform Fees. My Ebay listings are mostly free shipping, there are a few FBM listings at AMZ but most of it is FBA. All fees include PayPal where applicable (EBay, BL & BO).

That's quite a large percentage of my gross revenue (selling price + difference between shipping charged and actual shipping costs) taken by uncle Jeff.

Can someone corroborate my findings?

40.20% on Amazon seems too high if most of your sales are through FBA. My number on Amazon FBA is around 25%. 

I am running at approximately 31%....4 year average also

1 hour ago, joesnow2005 said:

40.20% on Amazon seems too high if most of your sales are through FBA. My number on Amazon FBA is around 25%. 

 

1 hour ago, odysea11 said:

I am running at approximately 31%....4 year average also

Are you including FBA shipping costs, Inventory storage fees (only short-term in my case) and the like? That's where it goes from ~30% to 40% in my case (actually, the real number is 39%, not 40.2% as I had a doublecount in the numbers somewhere).

4 hours ago, Phil B said:

 

Are you including FBA shipping costs, Inventory storage fees (only short-term in my case) and the like? That's where it goes from ~30% to 40% in my case (actually, the real number is 39%, not 40.2% as I had a doublecount in the numbers somewhere).

My FBA fees run around 30% all-in.

Mine are 25% - 30% all in (shipping, storage, fba fee, referral fee, etc). 

Mine are ~24%. The average breakdown for the 6 mo 2019/2020 holiday season is:

Received	Storage Fee	Inbound Shipping	Fees
97.98	0.53	1.26	21.10	23.37%

I do both FBA and FBM, and only send things in to FBA that I'm confident I can sell through in 6 months. 

Just updated my formulas to calculate the net fees I paid over the last 4 years on various platforms and am a bit shocked to see the numbers:

This is including Shipping Fees and Platform Fees. My Ebay listings are mostly free shipping, there are a few FBM listings at AMZ but most of it is FBA. All fees include PayPal where applicable (EBay, BL & BO).
That's quite a large percentage of my gross revenue (selling price + difference between shipping charged and actual shipping costs) taken by uncle Jeff.
Can someone corroborate my findings?

How are your BrickLink fees so high? I’m only paying 3% + 2.9% PayPal.

How are your BrickLink fees so high? I’m only paying 3% + 2.9% PayPal.

Lots of small orders. Paypal's $0.40 minimum is 10% of a $4 total shipped order.

9 minutes ago, Phil B said:

1 hour ago, Mark Twain said:

How are your BrickLink fees so high? I’m only paying 3% + 2.9% PayPal.

Lots of small orders. Paypal's $0.40 minimum is 10% of a $4 total shipped order.

PayPal micropayments works ok. $.05 plus 5% of total order. 

Lots of small orders. Paypal's $0.40 minimum is 10% of a $4 total shipped order.

I tried that my first year and ended up abandoning a no limit selling structure on BL. It isn’t worth my time to complete so many small orders. I found Putting in a reasonable minimum order threshold of $5 and specifying a shipping fee of something reasonable like $1 for packaging worked well for me though I am only small time completing about $1200 in sales last year.

On 6/13/2020 at 5:32 AM, redcell said:

My FBA fees run around 30% all-in.

about the same for me.

5 hours ago, Phil B said:

6 hours ago, Mark Twain said:

How are your BrickLink fees so high? I’m only paying 3% + 2.9% PayPal.

Lots of small orders. Paypal's $0.40 minimum is 10% of a $4 total shipped order.

FYIW. For the last 7 years I’ve had $10 minimum order no lot limits and charge commercial base rate + $0.60 first class +$0.30 priority.

ive had no complaints about price of shipping nor, other than once or twice per year, the minimum order. The small extra charge covers packaging materials, labels etc and the PayPal per transaction fee.

most often that price is lower than counter price.

5 hours ago, Foreman Porgy said:

PayPal micropayments works ok. $.05 plus 5% of total order. 

Over ~8 years of selling, having a micropayments account probably saved me several thousand dollars in fees.   It's a bit of a pain to set up with PayPal (you have to open a second account then call them to switch it to micro), but both BL and BO platforms support the alternate payment account for totals <~$12 so once its done you never have to think about it.

 

I've never seen this before.

An FBA customer gets a refund for reason "Delivered Late by Carrier".

The customer never returns the item, and Amazon never automatically reimburses me.

I open a case to ask about the reimbursement, and Amazon tells me "We don’t reimburse for refunds issued by non-Amazon entities."

Has anyone encountered this before? What "non-Amazon entities" are being referred to here?

I've never seen this before.

An FBA customer gets a refund for reason "Delivered Late by Carrier".

The customer never returns the item, and Amazon never automatically reimburses me.

I open a case to ask about the reimbursement, and Amazon tells me "We don’t reimburse for refunds issued by non-Amazon entities."

Has anyone encountered this before? What "non-Amazon entities" are being referred to here?

Sounds like they filed a chargeback with their credit card company? Maybe?

 

3 minutes ago, Shortbus311 said:

Sounds like they filed a chargeback with their credit card company? Maybe?

 

Good thought, but I just checked under Chargeback Claims, and this particular order is not there.

9 hours ago, Jackson said:

I've never seen this before.

An FBA customer gets a refund for reason "Delivered Late by Carrier".

The customer never returns the item, and Amazon never automatically reimburses me.

I open a case to ask about the reimbursement, and Amazon tells me "We don’t reimburse for refunds issued by non-Amazon entities."

Has anyone encountered this before? What "non-Amazon entities" are being referred to here?

Yes I had the exact same issue a month ago , a lot of back and forth that led to no where , I eventually just let it go . 

1 hour ago, Bold-Arrow said:

Yes I had the exact same issue a month ago , a lot of back and forth that led to no where , I eventually just let it go . 

oh boy, I haven't been tracking this as closely.  Something else to look at.

13 hours ago, Jackson said:

I've never seen this before.

An FBA customer gets a refund for reason "Delivered Late by Carrier".

The customer never returns the item, and Amazon never automatically reimburses me.

I open a case to ask about the reimbursement, and Amazon tells me "We don’t reimburse for refunds issued by non-Amazon entities."

Has anyone encountered this before? What "non-Amazon entities" are being referred to here?

I have one of these cases open too. I'll update if I receive a resolution.

On 6/15/2020 at 11:26 AM, bbr said:

I have one of these cases open too. I'll update if I receive a resolution.

I did finally receive a reimbursement - minus the extra Amazon fees. What a scam.....

2 minutes ago, bbr said:

I did finally receive a reimbursement - minus the extra Amazon fees. What a scam.....

I guess it's another shady thing Amazon tries to slip by sellers, hoping that most won't notice or won't bother with.

I checked some late delivery refunds from the holidays, and those were reimbursed.  It looks like they just stopped reimbursing sometime in the spring.  Farked by Amazon again...

I wonder if Target knows their so-called exclusive is being sold by Amazon UK on Amazon US.

Harry Potter Quidditch Match 75956.

https://www.amazon.com/LEGO-Harry-Potter-Quidditch-75956/dp/B0792T8Y9D/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=lego+75956&qid=1592329595&sr=8-1

https://www.target.com/p/lego-harry-potter-quidditch-match-75956/-/A-53458085

32 minutes ago, Jackson said:

I wonder if Target knows their so-called exclusive is being sold by Amazon UK on Amazon US.

Harry Potter Quidditch Match 75956.

https://www.amazon.com/LEGO-Harry-Potter-Quidditch-75956/dp/B0792T8Y9D/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=lego+75956&qid=1592329595&sr=8-1

https://www.target.com/p/lego-harry-potter-quidditch-match-75956/-/A-53458085

also at gamestop for $12 lol.  https://www.gamestop.com/toys-collectibles/toys/construction/products/lego-harry-potter-quidditch-match-75956/11095557.html

like you said - so called exclusive.