Porkins lives on. Must be his son.

(Yes, I know it Greg Grunberg. He must have thought it was awesome to be a pilot)

One more thing that rubbed me the wrong way :

how on earth didn't Rey and others know that the Jedi are real and all that good stuff. I mean she is a scavanger and the wreckage is there for all to see ? 

14 minutes ago, Bold-Arrow said:

One more thing that rubbed me the wrong way :

how on earth didn't Rey and others know that the Jedi are real and all that good stuff. I mean she is a scavanger and the wreckage is there for all to see ? 

The wreckage was from space battle, not Jedi battle.  By Rey's time, the Jedi has been in hiding / extinct for 50 years and the final Jedi vs Sith battle on DS was not necessarily broadcasted to the entire galaxy

Think of it this way, how many highschool age students today can name famous generals from WW2?

Aside from Kylo Ren's shuttle, the lack of new ship designs was a real disappointment. You'd have thought the Republic could have come up with a new ship in the interim.

10 minutes ago, Darth_Raichu said:

The wreckage was from space battle, not Jedi battle.  By Rey's time, the Jedi has been in hiding / extinct for 50 years and the final Jedi vs Sith battle on DS was not necessarily broadcasted to the entire galaxy

Think of it this way, how many highschool age students today can name famous generals from WW2?

Wasn't that the SSD ? 

6 minutes ago, Bold-Arrow said:

Wasn't that the SSD ? 

I did not remember any confirmation either way.  Even if it was SSD, it would not prove existence of Jedi

6 minutes ago, Darth_Raichu said:

I did not remember any confirmation either way.  Even if it was SSD, it would not prove existence of Jedi

I beg to differ maybe I'm just being anal  

Since we saw Vader's burned helmet in Kylo's hand, is it safe to assume he destroyed most of Ewoks in moon of Endor to get it?

 

One more thing that rubbed me the wrong way :

how on earth didn't Rey and others know that the Jedi are real and all that good stuff. I mean she is a scavanger and the wreckage is there for all to see ? 

The wreckage was from space battle, not Jedi battle.  By Rey's time, the Jedi has been in hiding / extinct for 50 years and the final Jedi vs Sith battle on DS was not necessarily broadcasted to the entire galaxy [emoji6]

Think of it this way, how many highschool age students today can name famous generals from WW2?

Ppl always know dark side better, everybody hear about Hitler...

47 minutes ago, Bold-Arrow said:

Wasn't that the SSD ? 

It was an SSD. The Empire had more than one SSD.

A great source for some background info is the Star Wars Visual Dictionary.  I looked through it yesterday.  They do confirm in there that the wreckage was another SSD.  There's also background on people and places that was cut from the movie.  There's a map, too (although that one I'm not too keen on).

They do give a little bit more background on Hux, and what happened to the Imperials 

56 minutes ago, Darth_Raichu said:

The wreckage was from space battle, not Jedi battle.  By Rey's time, the Jedi has been in hiding / extinct for 50 years and the final Jedi vs Sith battle on DS was not necessarily broadcasted to the entire galaxy

Think of it this way, how many highschool age students today can name famous generals from WW2?

I agree with you.  Rey didn't know that Luke Skywalker and Jedi truly existed.  She's on a backwater planet, so only had heard rumors, etc.  And like you said, the Jedi have been gone for 50 years by now.  Even in TPM, in the Outer Rim planets (like Tatooine), the Jedi are known, but don't have an every day appearance.

So...can we start talking detailed plot stuff now?

5 minutes ago, Alpinemaps said:

So...can we start talking detailed plot stuff now?

This is what this thread is for  

1 hour ago, Bold-Arrow said:

One more thing that rubbed me the wrong way :

how on earth didn't Rey and others know that the Jedi are real and all that good stuff. I mean she is a scavanger and the wreckage is there for all to see ? 

 

Luke didn't seem to know anything about the Jedi or the force before Kenobi told him in ANH.  Rey lives on the same type of backwater planet, with little contact with the rest of the universe.

Obviously people are going to know about the war between the Rebellion and Empire, but with one Jedi and a couple of Sith in the mix, they would be legends outside of the group of people who knew them personally.

1 hour ago, Bold-Arrow said:

One more thing that rubbed me the wrong way :

how on earth didn't Rey and others know that the Jedi are real and all that good stuff. I mean she is a scavanger and the wreckage is there for all to see ? 

That's not how it works; that's not how any of this works.

1 hour ago, Bold-Arrow said:

One more thing that rubbed me the wrong way :

how on earth didn't Rey and others know that the Jedi are real and all that good stuff. I mean she is a scavanger and the wreckage is there for all to see ? 

come on man !

the answer is the force moves in mysterious ways

Good answers  

5 minutes ago, trekgate502 said:

come on man !

the answer is the force midichlorians move in mysterious ways

There, fixed that for ya

3 minutes ago, Darth_Raichu said:

There, fixed that for ya

technicalist !

What easter eggs did everyone pick out from the movie?

I had a chuckle when Finn was going through a toolbox on the Falcon, and tossed out the training remote from ANH.

10 minutes ago, Bold-Arrow said:

This is what this thread is for  

Some people wanted us to wait the weekend, or a week or something.  I'm just trying to be nice.

So, some detailed thoughts from me:

1. I *loved* that we just got the Lucasfilm logo fade out, and immediately went into the opening theme.  I thought I'd miss the 20th Century Fox opening theme, but I didn't miss it at all.

2. Rey - okay, is she a Skywalker?  Or a random force sensitive person?  Did she have training before? Was she at Luke's Academy?  Maybe she's Ezra's daughter?

3. Poe rocks.  He shot down something like 10 TIEs all in one scene, on Maz' planet.

4. Loved the humor.  It was just enough.  My favorites were when they were going through the toolbox and Rey yells at Finn "The one I'm pointing at!" and then has to say no a couple more times; "that's not how the Force works!"; "you're cold?"

I'll share more later.

On ‎12‎/‎21‎/‎2015 at 11:42 AM, Alpinemaps said:

Porkins lives on. Must be his son.

(Yes, I know it Greg Grunberg. He must have thought it was awesome to be a pilot)

My exact thoughts when watching the first time.

I loved it!

I loved it!

I thought you were against remakes?

Not reading anything on this link yet haha. Off to see it tonight as couldn't avoid social media etc any longer!! Literally can't wait... pacing about! Don't ruin this for me JJ...

Some pages from the Star Wars Visual Dictionary can be found here.

Of note:

1. Greg Grunberg's character is "Snap" Wexley, which is the character Temmin Wexley in the Aftermath book that was released a couple months ago.  (Snap is his callsign).

2. Some interesting thoughts on Rey and the "Awakening" of the Force.

3. The immediate fate of Luke's lightsaber, after he lost in Cloud City, is mentioned.

4. The pilots entry says that a number of maneuvers were named after former Rebellion pilots, including the "Porkins Belly Run"

Also of note - the book describes the make up of the New Republic. Those scenes were cut from the film, but the Hosnian Prime was the current seat of the Government, and it rotated every few years.

This map also shows up in the SWVD:

Edited December 21, 20159 yr by Alpinemaps