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Also does that mean that people on the waitlist will not get one as they are too valuable and those orders that got cancelled are going to be sold in th aftermarket by brick-link. I mean they already sold two in the aftermarket, before anyone getting theirs, I will assume those were going to waitlisted people (hopefully they did not cancel two paying orders to do that) but they decided since they are too valuable and sold them. Any word on this?

I would like to understand. They took two sets all the way to Europe to raffle, and then they "were deemed too valuable to use in the raffle", exactly who "deemed" them too valuable, the same guy that brought it to Europe for the raffle, or the actual raffle people? Or did they just change their mind once they got to the raffle because they could make more money on the secondary market (Ebay, Charity sale, etc...). I don't know but it just sound weird to me that someone would advertise a raffle and then decide to outright sell the would be raffled products...sounds bizarre and omnious.

So true. I am one of them. Feels like an army arose 2 years ago just to re-sell legos lol... Yes, I feel relieved.

I agree with this statement, my way of thinking was either I sell now or wait a few more years...I have made money, good money, on a bunch of sets two years ago when I was more actively selling, but this one has has been more elusive, maybe I was trying to sell too expensive. The fact is all through October 2015-summer 2016 I was getting regular offers for average of $700, maybe even $750 if I recall correctly, but I wanted to hold it at least until summer 2017 or even Christmas 2017 see what that would do to the price. For sure I though this Christmas 2016 would at least bring some tempting offers, Im not sure but around late summer last year offers where lower and slowing down until Christmas came and there was not even one offer, lol...I did not freak out because I was still in a holding pattern, but I though it was VERY peculiar. Had heard of cloning as cheap and very low quality years ago, never I though this ship could be cloned. Also I had been absent from Lego selling and Lego world for about a 8 months and my Imperial Flagship was my only listing during that time. Fast forward to January as I am shopping for the Medieval Winter Village when scouring reviews and comments I came into contact with the lepers...and my eyes where finally opened at what the hell was going on in the past few months. Needless to say I freak out...Aniways I still bought the Lego MMV and waiting to assemble. But this experience made me scour forums for this new development and now I know things have changed drastically and I believe will get worse when people start shedding their used leppers, since there are going to sell free shipping from the US, not china, for about $20, probably buy 2 get 1 free. Dont want to sound like the prophet of doom but...well its just an opinion. And yes and I am happy to inform that I was able to sell my spare and new/sealed Imperial Flagship for $650 on eBay today, just a few min ago. There were two sold yesterday for $615 and $653 respectively, if I recall correctly. Did not make a killing or anything but at least dont have to hold for more years and more uncertainty.

Biggest development: The Fall of the Imperial Flagship. Brick-picker guide has them selling new for $743.40. This is misleading to say the least. I've had mine in Brick classifieds and ebay for $650 free shipping. I get offers for about 450 max. And I had it for $700 free shipping before that, no dice. Read somewhere in this forum someone got a new one for about $350. These things are falling super fast and I'm sure in a year or two you will find used clones of these on dollar store shelves. Has the sale of anybody else's big retired set's been affected by these new developments? If so maybe you can shed light on the price fluctuation. I cannot be the only one. and does anyone have any news on the "alleged" Lego lawsuit??? I think Lego might be pulling someones leg on this...hope everyone is having a great day btw! On a side note: On Brickpicker buying guide when you input 10210 only Ebay listings appear, not the Brick classified ones, even thou it claims to have listings of both marketplaces. I have sent two notifications but no action has been taken.

People buying multiple huge retired sets to give as gifts because they are so cheap... Buying each of their kids millennium falcons or ISD's...The market is going to get so flooded with these sets that soon people are gonna be giving away sets like the Tower of Orthanc to their friends for free, since you cant really sell them used. I put my lego ToO on ebay on auction, I don't care how much I get, I just need to get rid of it before it becomes so commonplace that is worthless. Some people come out of the dark ages, they dont go all lego crazy and limit the number of sets they can own, they buy some sets at retail and then some sets at secondary market at reasonable prices, and then, after a year or two and much debating, buy one or perhaps two excessively priced retired set as the jewel of his lego domain. That is soo over......the jewel will now be a different brand and no one will know...he also buys small lego sets for nephews and friends, sort of to normalize this new hobby, that is so over too...huge leper sets are gonna light up kids eyes, the end of an era. As for me I am glad my personal collection is pure Lego, i paid reasonable prices for the work that went into the sets. However my personal Imperial Flagship was bought at an exorbitant price, it is the only set I had not been comfortable with. Finally last summer i was finally able to come to terms with how much i paid for it and started enjoying it, even put it on my display, soo captivating and beautiful, a true work of art...but with the news that it was cloned successfully it has become sort of a personal problem for me, I get angry at times for no reason, needless to say I took it down from my display and is now on storage, where it will be for a long while...mind that I have a sealed one that I need to sell asap... I assume that it is over for the casual reseller like me, only serious resellers that sell to serious lego collectors will maybe survive. Its just my opinion and i hope it does not happen. I got some of my best sets from the secondary market, and most of the resellers were very reasonable with their prices (given their storage/cost etc..), and I was gratefull for their work and that I was able to get one because of them. I also wonder if clone conventions will soon pop up with massive mocs. I checked the net, no recent information of the legal case in China, its been a while now...

I have been trying to get info on the lego lawsuit and how its going, but other that generic reports about lego suing there no information with beef, I think I shoul dump everything. I went to the lego store yesterday trying to return my extra Tower of Orthanc, I could tell the guy knew why. Of course they did not take it back, it was out of the return period, so I dont blame them, but hidden in the conversation was the fact that we both knew i was fracked. Now I have nowhere to sell it, ebay has a ton basically at retail, everyone else is buying the clone. I called my friend yesterday after the lego store, he was interested before but did not have the money so tell him I would give it to him for $190. Guess what? HE HAS ONE ALREADY...I asked him if it was lego and he said "yeah yeah" so pressed him and he said no, but its the "same thing" and "probably" by the same company, finishing his sentence with "its just like yours", heading there today in the afternoon to look at it....god damn it...

Any new opinions on how bogus bricks is killing the secondary market? From what i read on the net, thousands of more people now know, buying huge sets for pennies. I bought 2 Imperial Flagships a year before bogus bricks release, one for me and one to sell...im sorry but I feel ripped open by ebay and now its very hard to sell because everyone is buying the bogus bricks one. Argh...