Ratings and Reviews for 75017-1: Duel on Geonosis

75017-1: Duel on Geonosis

Overall Score

6.00
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  • First Impression Does the set "WOW" you? 6.00
  • Unique Parts/Minifigures Unique parts? Increase resale? 8.00
  • Playability/Build Experience Is this a "FUN" set to build? 7.00
  • Value for money (NEW) "Bang for your buck"? 9.00
  • Theme Popularity Will theme help with resale? 10
  • Exclusivity Unique production aspects? 3.00
  • Packaging Does this set stand out? 6.00
  • Growth Potential Possibility of revenue growth? 3.00
  • Display Attributes Does this set stand out? 4.00
  • Conclusion Your final analysis.. 4.00
Review from: comicblast
Reviewed on: Feb 28, 2014
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FIRST IMPRESSION | Score: 6
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

Defeat Count Dooku™ and recover the plans for the Death Star!

Stop Count Dooku™ from leaving Geonosis™ with the plans for the Death Star! Use the Force to help Jedi Master Yoda™ jump into the air, dodge the Sith Lord’s Force Lightning attack and bring Dooku to justice. Don’t let him destroy the lair and escape on his speeder. Includes 4 minifigures with weapons: Count Dooku, Yoda, Poggle the Lesser and Dooku’s Pilot Droid™.

• Includes 4 minifigures with weapons: Count Dooku™, Yoda™, Poggle the Lesser and Dooku’s Pilot Droid™
• Lair features falling lamps, tower handle and hidden compartment
• Also features Dooku’s speeder
• Weapons include 2 Lightsabers
• Accessories include Death Star plans decorated tile, walking stick and a Force Lightning element
• Unleash Dooku’s Sith Force Lightning attack!
• Pull the lever and topple the pillar
• Hop on the speeder and outrun the Jedi!
• Hide the Death Star plans in the hidden compartment
• Collect the redesigned Yoda and Poggle the Lesser minifigures
• Lair measures over 5" (15cm) high, 15" (40cm) wide and 6" (17cm) deep
• Dooku’s speeder measures over 1" (4cm) high, 4" (12cm) long and 1" (4cm) wide

The LEGO Star Wars 75017-1: Duel on Geonosis set isn't a large set, so when I first heard about/saw this set in pictures, I dismissed it. Though it does lay in the top 10 largest LEGO Star Wars sets released in 2013 (only normal production sets included, excludes 3-in-1 super packs), it retails for $39.99 and has 390 pieces, making it rather average in size, but underpriced, in my opinion. 
 
This set leaves much to be desired, and reminds me quite a bit of the Rancor Pit set, with a lot of open space, and minimal interior. If anything, this set is to part out, with fairly attractive colors (brown and gray), which can sell more than other colors like blue or red. 
 
As a stand alone set, on first impression, this set is terrible!! It has nice decor, but is missing the action and bright color needed to draw builders, especially young builders, to the set. 
 
Along with the Mos Eisley Cantina, I think the duel between Count Dooku and the 3 Jedi, Yoda, Anakin Skywalker, and Obi-Wan Kenobi is one of the more iconic scenes that hasn't been made extensively by the LEGO Group. 
 
Now, without further adieu, a review on LEGO Star Wars 75017-1: Duel on Geonosis!!

UNIQUE PARTS | Score: 8
This set includes quite a few unique pieces, but most are unique only because of their color. One particularly rare piece is a 8x16 flat tile piece:
 
 
This mold is found in 19 other sets, making it rare, though it is not highly sought after because of its size. This piece would be extremely practical for paving sidewalks in city landscapes (especially helpful when you are trying to connect larger baseplates together), and could be used in the construction of LEGO houses. Once again, however, this piece can be used in place of several flat tiles, but this doesn't work vice versa, which makes it impractical in some circumstances. 
 
In this set you get quite a few harder to find colors, such as dark brown, and a few 'castle' pieces in hard to find shades of gray, which is nice to part out, but the molds are very typical. As a result, not a great set to part out, but some nice colors for MOC's (My Own Creations), and a low price, if you need the pieces. 
 
There is a total of 4 minifigures in this set, 3 of whom are exclusive to this set. This particular version of Yoda, Count Dooku, and Poggle the Lesser (first and only version) are exclusive to this set, and the FA-4 Pilot Droid minifigure is found in one other set.
 
I haven't built, so I'll have to judge visually, but here goes....
 
Yoda
 
The new version is on the left, while the old version is on the right. This new version of appears to have a different torso printing as well as a redesigned head. The torso compared to the one released prior is fairly similar, mainly with slightly different wrincles in his robe. The new version does have a slightly greener robe and legs, which are short, and unbendable.
 
There are larger differences in the head. There is a new mold for Yoda's head, as seen above, and one of the main differences is the ears, which are more curved, and have a more organic appearance rather than the straight ears of the older version. We also have a more circular head, which I think is a bit more movie accurate, since Yoda's head was never very wide in the first place. There are also some facial differences, like smaller eyes, a larger mouth, as well as a higher nose in the new version.
 
Over all, I think each minifigure serves for a different purpose. The older version looks like a minifigure out of the Clone Wars TV show, making it accurate if you are referencing it to the show, but if you are referencing to the original blockbuster movies, the new Yoda is more accurate. 
MINIFIGURE GRADE: 8.5/10
 
Count Dooku
 
This version of Count Dooku is exclusive to this set (right-new, left-old). Once again, we'll do a comparison of Count Dooku minifigures. Once again, we see that the older version is much more accurate in terms of the Clone Wars TV show, which had Dooku younger than the age that he appears at in Star Wars Episode 2 (Attack of the Clones). The new version is much more movie accurate with the facial structure, and hair. Both minifigures include capes, identical legs, but slightly different torso pieces. There is a more prominant outline of Count Dooku's body in the Clone Wars version, but whether you like that or not (or care at all) is up to you. 
 
Unlike the old version, this new Count Dooku has a double-sided face, one with a more neutral look, and the other with a more ferociousness to it. I also like the new version of Dooku because its more movie accurate, and basically looks more accurate.
MINIFIGURE GRADE: 7/10
 
FA-4 Pilot Droid
 
Thus far, there hasn't been a version of the FA-4 Pilot Droid who piloted Count. Instead, in 7752-1: Count Dooku's Solar Sailer, we have a normal looking white droid, as seen above on the right. The new version is made up of 9 pieces, waist up looking like a normal Clone Wars era droid, but below the waist, is a stand, which is a brickbuilt version of treads which the droid in the movie used. 
 
This is the only non-exclusive minifigure in this set, and it is found in the 75023-1: Star Wars Advent Calendar (2013 Holiday Season), but this set had a fairly limited shelf time period, so this minifigure is still fairly uncommon.
 
To be honest, there isn't much special about this droid. "These are not the droids you are looking for."
MINIFIGURE GRADE: 3/10
 
Poggle the Lesser
 
This is the first ever minifigure version of Poggle the Lesser, one of the Geonosians that you might remember from Attack of the Clones. He is eventually killed on Mustafar by Darth Vader, along with a number of other Seperatist leaders. The head mold is new, and over all, I think the LEGO Group did a fantastic job of recreating the original Poggle the Lesser, as seen right of the LEGO minifigure. 
 
The minifigure comes with a set of wings, which can be found in a number of other sets that have Geonosian soldiers/pilots in them, but this one has different colors. The torso and legs are both unique, and if you compare them to the image at right, they are extremely accurate. You can clearly see the bronze-colored breasteplate of Poggle as well as his decorated belt hanging from his waist. 
 
The only thing that I think is missing from the minifigure is a staff for Poggle, since I think that is a fairly important part of the minifigure.
MINIFIGURE GRADE: 9/10

PLAYABILITY/BUILD EXPERIENCE | Score: 7

I haven't built this set yet, but it is designated for 8-14 year olds, so I assume it is a fairly advanced set. It does look fairly simple though, and I think ages 6-7 would be able to put the set together with a little asistance. 

There is a great amount of detail that goes into a set like this, and you can really see it when you look at the walls of the structure. There is a lot of great texture, using bricks that are less commonly used as walls, and I think it really helps to accomplish the jagged cave walls look. Also, if you look at the doorway, there's quite a bit of nice detail, at the peak of the arch, especially in the lamp that hangs from it.

In addition, there is a brown colored column that can fall, if you lift the lever that is found at its base. You can find the function in motion on the box. 

There is also a landing platform right outside the doorway, though it isn't that easy to see in the pictures, which is a nice touch, but the speeder of Count Dooku is really only big enough for the Count, and there isn't enough space to have the droid there, even if it was by itself. Makes it a bit confusing to have it the pilot droid included in the set. 

There is some nice details on the speeder (keep on mispelling that "speedor" after CHIMA Speedorz!), like the acceleration pedal, stability fins on the side, etc. There is also a clear brick connected to the underside of the speeder to give it the illusion that it is floating.

VALUE FOR MONEY | Score: 9

As seen on above, here is the breakdown of the price per brick of this set, for on NEW (based on latest eBay NEW prices), USED (based on latest eBay USED prices), and RETAIL (based on the original MSRP price of the set). 

For the US, we have a PPP (Price Per Piece) ratio of $0.10, which is really good for a SW set, though the current trends seem to be suggesting that LEGO Star Wars Price Per Piece ratios are going down, in effort to boost appeal to customers. At 390 pieces and looking at the set on the other hand, you don't really get much. Just a bunch of "rock" pieces, which could be found in dozens of other sets. I wouldn't buy this set for full price ($39.99 USD), seeing as it is going for nearly half that on eBay, and will probably only appreciate to $50 once said and done with.

I wouldn't part out this set because the only highly appealing part of the set is the minifigures, and you might just break even, and probably wouldn't make much more than that unless you bought the set dirt cheap. 

THEME POPULARITY | Score: 10

Star Wars is one of the most popular themes ever to be produced by the LEGO Company. Getting ahold of the Star Wars license was largely an experiment on the part of the LEGO Company. The LEGO Company was struggling to find an area where they could concentrate on, while still make large enough profit margins to stay in business. The cost of molds used to produce elements, as well as the increasing number of elements being introduced increase costs. In fact, in the year 2000 alone, around 8,000 different elements were being produced EACH YEAR. (that number peaked at 14,2000 in 2004).They wanted to stay with their long-standing motto of “Only the best is good enough” and traditional brick-and-stud configurations, but at the same time, modernize the company to “stay in the game”. It’s during the time period of this set that infamous LEGO failures were introduced, including LEGO Galidor and LEGO Jack Stone.

Star Wars luckily, was not on the failure list. Whether or not to take a hold of the Star Wars license had already been a highly debated subject within the LEGO Company, and had it failed in the first 1-2 years, it would have been removed from production. In fact, in early 1997, when Star Wars was first proposed as a possible LEGO theme, the LEGO Vice President said rather harshly, “Over my dead body will LEGO ever introduce Star Wars.” Little did the head LEGO employees in Billund, Denmark know that it would save the LEGO Company, and help to form it into the LEGO Company we know today.

 

 

Source: Robertson, David C. “Brick By Brick.” Crown Business, 2013.

EXCLUSIVITY | Score: 3

This set isn't an exclusive, and is available at all major retailers including those below:

  • LEGO Shop At Home (S@H)
  • Target
  • Walmart
  • KMart
  • Fry's Electronics
  • Meijer
  • Entertainment Earth
  • Toys 'R' Us

This set was first available in August 2013, so we can expect at least another year out of this set, and I would guess that we will be eventually seeing this set at a very cheap price in the future. Don't rush to grab this set yet, just because you don't have it! At the time of the writing of this review, there are many other alternatives that are much better to invest in, and are much closer to retirement. Look at sets that were released in 2011, as those sets will likely retire within the next few months, or even 2012 sets, since they will also be off the shelves soon.

PACKAGING | Score: 6

This set's packaging is pretty normal for a LEGO Star Wars set. The top right logo is mandated by LucasFilms Star Wars, and you can find this logo on all 2013 Star Wars sets, not just LEGO (graphic changes annually to a different image/character). We see in the middle left a normal info panel featuring general information like suggested age, and piece could which is nothing new. 

In terms of the concept behind this box design, I think its pretty good, because it accents the most attractive part of the set: minifigures!

Over all, I give the box design a 6 because it is above average, but the set itself brings down the appeal of the box.

GROWTH POTENTIAL | Score: 3

I think this set won't grow a whole lot even though it represents a large and important part of the Star Wars saga, because it is just visually lacking. There is a lot missing, and I think LEGO could have done a better job with the set design. 

Star Wars hasn't been as strong a performer as it was, say in the 2005-2009 range, with too many remakes damaging value of older sets. Though this particular set isn't a remake, I think the sheer number of repeats has already pushed away a multitude of fans (of the LEGO product), and though there is still a strong LEGO Star Wars following both AFOL's (Adult Fans of LEGO) and in children, I think this isn't on the top of the priority list, and probably won't be very sought after once it retires.

DISPLAY QUALITY | Score: 4

Like said before, this set is really lacking, with a lot of empty space, and not a lot of the factors customers, especially kids, look for in a LEGO set. Sure, you can have Yoda and Count Dooku fight, but the set is structured in a way that it seems like a huge waste of bricks to have what the LEGO Group has designed, if that makes sense. 

In general, medium to large sets are better displays than small sets, because they are more physically attractive with more detail, and more eyecatching, and I think this set would fall under the description of small sets, dispite being a 400 piece set. 

CONCLUSION & FINAL ANALYSIS | Score: 4

Overall, I wouldn't recommend buying this set, unless you are a completist, or really enjoyed the Attack of the Clones movie. 

ADVANTAGES OF THIS SET:

  • New redesigned minifigures.
  • Nice box design.
  • Very low price per piece ratio.
  • Fairly iconic scene.

DISADVANTAGES OF THIS SET:

  • Not visually attractive.
  • High price point for what you receive.
  • Little investment potential.

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